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Old 09-15-2008, 10:32 AM   #16
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Don't spend money or jackhammer up your basement floor until you can determine where your water is really coming from. I'd bet from your story you have a serious surface water problem

My house is 205 years old with a brick on top of sand basement. 200 years of compaction have resulted in the house sitting in a 'bowl'. For the last year I have had to balance anything in the basement on top of pallets to keep them from getting wet when it rains. The water came in at the floor/wall junction and up through the bricks.

Before Hannah blew up the east coast I: a) cleaned out my gutters; and b) installed/re-routed all the downspouts to areas where the water would actually move away from the house instead of toward it.

After 16 straight hours of rain my basement stayed dry-as-a-something-that-is-really-dry.

My hurricane preparedness is not a permanent solution - I will have to install something slightly more permanent than 12 feet of vinyl gutter tied to a stake in my front yard. HOWEVER, this proved to me beyond a shadow of a doubt, that I did not have a seepage problem, I had a rainwater/surface water problem. That means No installing sump pumps and drain systems, no 'basement waterproofing', just better rainwater management.

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I agree with Leah in that stormwater management is the best course of action when you have water problems. Getting the water to flow away from the house is ideal.

However, given the fact that water infiltration is already occurring, a sump pit and pump are a good idea, in addition to best management practices for stormwater. That pump is cheap insurance.
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Don't spend money or jackhammer up your basement floor until you can determine where your water is really coming from. I'd bet from your story you have a serious surface water problem

My house is 205 years old with a brick on top of sand basement. 200 years of compaction have resulted in the house sitting in a 'bowl'. For the last year I have had to balance anything in the basement on top of pallets to keep them from getting wet when it rains. The water came in at the floor/wall junction and up through the bricks.

Before Hannah blew up the east coast I: a) cleaned out my gutters; and b) installed/re-routed all the downspouts to areas where the water would actually move away from the house instead of toward it.

After 16 straight hours of rain my basement stayed dry-as-a-something-that-is-really-dry.

My hurricane preparedness is not a permanent solution - I will have to install something slightly more permanent than 12 feet of vinyl gutter tied to a stake in my front yard. HOWEVER, this proved to me beyond a shadow of a doubt, that I did not have a seepage problem, I had a rainwater/surface water problem. That means No installing sump pumps and drain systems, no 'basement waterproofing', just better rainwater management.

Good luck
The eastern shore was lucky though. You guys got barely the amount of rain that Northern Virginia got, which was around 6-9 inches in 1 day.

Also, the Eastern shore is practically at sea level. That's why few homes built today there have basements.
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I suspect the water just had no place to go.

ULtimately it came from 2 sources:

1. UP through the cracks in the basement floor.
2. About 8 hrs later it came through the footings.. where basement walls meet floor..

I have never had ths kind of flow..there was so much and it kept going until the rain stopped and the flow stopped a few hours later. I think the ground got saturated and that was it.

We are so flodded around here homes are being condemned that are near a river and many roads are impassable due to serious flooding... and I'm not even near Texas and eventhough the rain stopped yesterday..we are stil getting evem more flooding alerts as the rivers are rising even more...I suspect this area will also be a disaster area...

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I suspect the water just had no place to go.

ULtimately it came from 2 sources:

1. UP through the cracks in the basement floor.
2. About 8 hrs later it came through the footings.. where basement walls meet floor..

I have never had ths kind of flow..there was so much and it kept going until the rain stopped and the flow stopped a few hours later. I think the ground got saturated and that was it.

We are so flodded around here homes are being condemned that are near a river and many roads are impassable due to serious flooding... and I'm not even near Texas and eventhough the rain stopped yesterday..we are stil getting evem more flooding alerts as the rivers are rising even more...I suspect this area will also be a disaster area...

tnx,

Tom
Good luck dude...hang in there.
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sounds as if leah's figured out how to make water run uphill easton's hardly an area w/many basements as i recall,,, this issue's much different,,, there may be another way to resolve the problem but, in 35 yrs, i never found it.

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