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Old 02-05-2007, 05:49 PM   #16
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You should use a continuous length of 2x4's....all the way down the length of that pipe. I know that I don't have to remind you to be careful about your nail placement around that gas line.


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Thanks Atlantic.

I will be extremely careful with my nails. Safety, is my number one concern. (Screws actually, is what I am using, and I am putting them in by hand, as it is too time consuming
to remove the drill bit, and then put another one in and then remove again, etc.) Have put in over 500 so far.

Hubby said he is sending me for a manicure when I'm done.
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Thanks Atlantic.

I will be extremely careful with my nails. Safety, is my number one concern. (Screws actually, is what I am using, and I am putting them in by hand, as it is too time consuming
to remove the drill bit, and then put another one in and then remove again, etc.) Have put in over 500 so far.

Hubby said he is sending me for a manicure when I'm done.
You could purchase a pilot hole drill bit with the philip's head bit on the opposite side. We use these for working on decks.

With one of these, you just:

Use the pilot hole drill tip to pre-drill your hole.
Pull up on the release collar located at the base of the tip.
Remove the bit assembly (with the philips bit attached to the other end) - Flip it around and re-insert.
Snap the release collar back down to lock position .... and .....

....you are allset to go....
We have about 5 of these with extra drill tip attachements (that you can replace if you break one)
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I'm a tool junkie. When I did mine I used


For Screws I use
I do not drill a pilot hole for applications such as we are discussing.

As for the length and spacing of your 2x4s.

You want to use long lengths as AtlanticWBConst. said. If you need longer than you can buy and transport easily you make sure you meet the ends, from one to the next, on a joist so the end is supported. You want to space them apart at 16" on center. That way when you drywall you can hopefully land an edge in the middle of one of your pieces of strapping. Also, make sure you run around the perimeter of the area you are working on too so the drywall is completely supported.

I wish you would have posted on this topic 2 weeks ago. I had your exact situation and I could have taken pictures. I am now in painting phase. My toughest problem now is deciding on colors!
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I'm a tool junkie.

I do not drill a pilot hole for applications such as we are discussing.

FWIW:

Actually, Y.M. is trying to do this on a budget, she doesn't have the cash reserves to purchase or rent a nailgun. She is attaching her lumber with screws. As you know, it can be difficult to drill in longer screws, especially if the attachment areas are of poor lumber (Hard, notty rings, etc.) This can be a little more difficult for the average DIYer and can be made easier by pre-drilling pilot holes....

(I for one, as well as several of our workers, have managed to put pressure on a screw when attempting to drive it into hard lumber..... and have had the 'pleasure' of the bit 'sliding or moving' off of the screw head and SLAMMING into the thumb knuckle and ripping a nice chunk of skin off because the screw, itself, hit a tough spot on the wood)

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YM - Where you at? You should make friends with someone with a nail gun or impact driver and borrow it (with instruction).
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You are right Atlantic, I'm trying to do this on a budget.
I would not mind purchasing all these tools but I think that they would get limited use, and not worth the investment.

It is time consuming what I am doing, but I find it really easy to drill a nice pilot hole, and then insert the screws.
I really don't mind at all.

I do not have any time constraints, so I am not necessarily in any real hurry.

Thanks for all the information Atlantic and Brik.
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I am in Toronto, Ontario Canada.

I don't know anyone who has any tools, (especially women).
Though in my area, there are a lot of homes being torn down, and rebuilt, so there is a lot of construction going on.

But also, whenever I do ask someone, (usually a male), I get this double look and they think that I really don't know what I am talking about.

And most of them (male) think that I should not be doing this.

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