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Old 10-22-2010, 06:41 PM   #16
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The guy from WCK foundation repair from Baton Rouge came by to inspect the foundation. He suggested putting in several piers of some type and then lifting the house wing, in his opinion about 3/4" and then lock/stablize.
He also saw another area of concern on the West side of my house at the kitchen/dining room exterior wall. I have another soldier row brick crack to a small degree there and the kitchen drywall ceiling has a structural stress crack about 6 ft. long extending from a load bearing wall.
He suggested piers and lifting here as well.
Together for both areas, the grand total is $6300.
He put a 4 ft. level down in several places in my house including the kitchen/dining rooms. As he saw some unlevelness on the vinyl tile floor, he was quick to say it was due to slab cracks running thru those rooms not original house construction of the concrete floor.
I may be wrong but I think it is due to the original house construction and my house slab isn't totally level through out the house.
Please give me your thoughts, he didn't use a laser level or transit to check the house elevations.
It seems that my house is falling down around my ankles and I am hearing the $$$$ hit the floor bigtime.
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Old 10-28-2010, 02:33 AM   #17
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Hey Guys,
I have had three foundation repair salesmen/inspectors come by to give estimates on my foundation repair. I will try to summarize each one so you can analyze them and give me the pros and cons of each, concerning the repair methods to be used.
I can now see some of the differences, one wants to auger down around 8 ft., put in some rebar and pour wedge piers, to lift/level the house.
Another one wants to push simple concrete blocks, one at a time using the house concrete foundation as a fulcrum down to a point where the blocks can't be pushed any further and then lift/level.
The third one will use cable lock patented technology to press round interlocking and rotating concrete cylinders down to point of refusal, tension aligned with a steel cable, then lift/level.
The estimates were for about the same price roughly $3600 to 3900 , with the total number of piers varying to ring just the rear wing of my house where the foundation is most at risk.
A friend told me that he chose cable-lock because otherwise, the proposed concrete wedge or "foundation pushed down" piers would just give and fail in short order.
I can tell that some want big money for a bandaid type job with lifetime warranties that are worthless if they close down, with no one to pick up the homeowners warranty. I was told that I could then find/pay someone to readjust the level for approx. $1000 or 1200. But I do know that regardless if it is a family owned business or a national company, they can ALL be gone today or tomorrow for whatever reason.
Just wanted to ask what you think on evaluating the foundation repair companies.

Thanks for you continued assistance,


I laid down soaker hoses around the rear wing of my house and turned on the water slightly. I was told that adding water to the perimeter, due to a lack of rain right now could help swell the ground/raise the house slightly???
I want to get your opinions on this technique, will it do any good at this point?
Thanks again



Hey guys,
I really need some professional help here, I have been having foundation repair companies inspect and give quotes on raising and stabilizing my house on two or three possible locations. I would like to supply the detailed info. to you to determine what would be the most effective method for permanent solution. They want to use a couple of different pier techniques and I don't know much about it.
I showed them my kitchen ceiling that extends from a load bearing wall that has a strongback brace in the attic that is cracking the drywall ceiling. The inspectors are suggesting that the double carport w/attached storage building is settling/dipping putting the stress on the load bearing wall and ceiling causing the slight cracking. Therefore they are recommending the attached storage room rear be raised/stabilized also.
They want $4600 for the bedroom wing and another $4000 for the attached storage room for a total of 14 pilings for a grand total of $8600. And I won't know if that will render my house stable or not for the long term, it may require more work and $$$$$$$$$$$ down the road.
I want to make sure that when I do the foundation work that a comprehensive job is done and not piecemeal it every year for 3-5 years.
Please give me some help on this.
Thanks

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Old 11-05-2010, 03:27 AM   #18
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Hey guys,
I really need some professional help here, I have been having foundation repair companies inspect and give quotes on raising and stabilizing my house on two or three possible locations. I would like to supply the detailed info. to you to determine what would be the most effective method for permanent solution. They want to use a couple of different pier techniques and I don't know much about it.
I showed them my kitchen ceiling that extends from a load bearing wall that has a strongback brace in the attic that is cracking the drywall ceiling. The inspectors are suggesting that the double carport w/attached storage building is settling/dipping putting the stress on the load bearing wall and ceiling causing the slight cracking. Therefore they are recommending the attached storage room rear be raised/stabilized also.
They want $4600 for the bedroom wing and another $4000 for the attached storage room for a total of 14 pilings for a grand total of $8600. And I won't know if that will render my house stable or not for the long term, it may require more work and $$$$$$$$$$$ down the road.
I want to make sure that when I do the foundation work that a comprehensive job is done and not piecemeal it every year for 3-5 years.
Please give me some help on this.
Thanks
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Old 11-05-2010, 08:11 AM   #19
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When you first started this thread, the issue was cracked brick, which you thought was due to poor mortar mix. Now you are procuring bids to repair the foundation, which you initially thought was OK. Nothing in any of your posts indicates how any of the foundation repair companies have concluded that there is a settlement problem. One of them apparently laid down a four foot level in one room, hardly a comprehensive survey.

If you ask a cable lok company what is the best solution, of course they are going to tell you cable lok is the way to go. I recommend you hire a registered professional engineer with expertise in foundation analysis, and have them perform a comprehensive foundation and floor survey. This would be done with an accurate instrument such as a laser level or a fluid level, and will tell you how much settlement your foundation has undergone, and where. When the facts are in place, they can presumably generate a report recommending a repair technique. This should be an independent engineer not associated with a specific repair procedure, so their opinion would not be influenced by financial ties.

No one on this forum can perform a structural analysis of your issues over the internet, and certainly cannot recommend the best procedure to correct your problem, whatever it may be. You need a hands on investigation by a professional.
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Old 11-05-2010, 10:33 PM   #20
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Daniel, you are exactly right on your conclusions, sorry that mine have changed as this as evolved. I was taken by surprise and didn't realize that I had any slab cracks or that I needed any extensive foundation work as they have proposed.
I do agree if someone is selling a service or product, it is the best. I have heard the foundation reps. all counter each other in a very nice manner, which method and/or companies work had to be reworked. The other smaller companies all said they have had to go back to correct not only their own work 1-2% of the time but Cable Locks work as well. ???? I don't understand that logic due to Cable Lock having a lifetime warranty as they are proposing too.
Anyway, in this situation they ALL want to sell and sell BIG but is it what I need for a permanent solution? I don't know ???
What type of engineer should I locate and what price range would I be looking at? I do understand that they could benefit me by recommending ONLY what I need to have done instead of a huge bill on overkill that may not solve my problems.
I appreciate your expertise and response. I will try to select an engineering firm or engineer that can help me with this issue.
Also, one company rep. slide a four foot level around the slab in different spots in each room, saying that I had possible slab cracks based on reading the level??? Cable lock uses some type of electronic spot sensor, they take a base reference measurement somewhere, on the front porch slab in this case and plugs it in, the sensor then reads at a + or - difference from this base reference reading, I don't know what to think about this gadget!
Maybe you have some experience and knowledge of this electronic sensor, it showed my rear bedroom wing at -1.3 in. and the attached carport stg. room -.5 to -.6 , so they were in a negative versus the base elevation reading
Thank you very much,

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Old 11-06-2010, 08:44 AM   #21
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Settlement of foundations in southern Louisiana is very common, due to the soil type. I am sure there are geotechnical engineers down there, or possibly structural engineers, who specialize in foundation problems. That is the type of person you need.

As for the electronic level, I have one of those, and the type I have works very well. If the instrument that was used was correctly calibrated, it sounds like you have a drop of 1.3 inches, which is not all that much based on my personal experience. I recommend you hire an engineer to evaluate your condition before you spend thousands of dollars on a repair that you may not need, and may not work. I don't know the going rate for an engineer in LA, but search around, there must be more than one that do that sort of work.
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Daniel,
I will look around and try to find a foundation/geotechnical engineer that is unbiased. I don't have any idea what it would cost but as you stated it may save me thousands in unnecessary repair work, that may or may not be the proper solution to this problem.
I will post again later after I contact a few engineer/engineer firms.
As you explained, I need a foundation analysis, I would think they may need to take some soil samples and take elevation shots at multiple points.
Thank you for the great advice,
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