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Old 11-03-2011, 09:32 AM   #1
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I'm finishing my basement and have a quick question about header sizing in a new egress window.

Specifically, I'll be installing a 27" wide x 45" tall in-swing type egress window and we have to cut the (poured) concrete wall to install it. I took my plans to the local county office to get my permits having completely forgotten about header details for the window. Now I have to go back and wait in line again.

I've never installed windows but I'm assuming the header should be the same thickness as the wall into which the window is installed.

So, my question is this. The window jamb is 7.875 inches and the block is obviously 8 inches, but I'm not sure of the best way to build the header. I was thinking a couple of stacked 2x4s with some 1/2" ply will be more than sufficient, strength wise (non-load bearing wall) but I don't get the thickness that way.

Any suggestions on the right way to build up the header to achieve the same thickness as the block wall? I'd rather not have a stack of four 2x4s with ply between them but if that's the right way to do it, then I guess that's the right way to do it.

Thanks for any help.

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Old 11-03-2011, 11:18 PM   #2
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If you are positive that a simple, wooden beam will suffice, why not use a 4x8, plus 1/2" plywood? What will hold up the header? Will there be a spot notched out for it, so it bears on the original blocks?

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I had planned on a simple "box" in the window cut-out. 2x8s as the king posts (are they still called king posts for windows?) with whatever header build up is required since this is a simple non-load wall and it's a narrow span.
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Old 11-04-2011, 09:27 PM   #4
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I plan on doing an egress window myself this weekend and from watching this video, I've decided to use 3 2x6 for the header, might be what you need or if you are worried about the thickness then make it 4 2x6.
You mentioned block and poured concrete, the wall may not be 8", my foundation walls look like they are 4".
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Old 11-04-2011, 10:37 PM   #5
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frankp, . What did your local AHJ say as to the non-bearing header? This on bearing ones: http://publicecodes.citation.com/ico...02_par021.htm?

fick, the video was interesting..... cardboard over the opening while cutting was thoughtful, the guy holding/watching it without safety glasses on was not; putting p.t. wood directly on the concrete block without a sill sealer (capillary/thermal/air break) or ice&water shield was not smart as water in the concrete wall can wick right through it: http://www.greenbuildingadvisor.com/...building-code; check your window papers stuck there, usually full-bearing shims are required under vinyl window frames; wrap the rough opening with sticky window wrap before installing a window- http://www.finehomebuilding.com/how-...?nterms=63740; no faced f.g. insulation in the basement- http://www.buildingscience.com/docum...ation-systems; hope they sloped the sill for water run out as up to 20% of new vinyl windows leak- http://www.buildingscience.com/docum...d-wall-systems.I didn't see any paper, felt, ice&water seal, etc, under the vinyl trim or a head flash, hope they used some....


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Old 11-05-2011, 09:33 AM   #6
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Gary,
Thanks for the breakdown and corrections. I'm going to take your advice on what they did wrong or didn't do and use it when I put my windows in.
Did not realize how much goes into making it right, as mike homes would say.

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