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Old 04-08-2013, 11:58 AM   #16
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OP, don't give up so easily. I wouldn't look forward to something for 25yrs and then let it go after a brief conversation w/ a possibly misinformed young person. You don't need our help, you need to find out locally who else you can talk to in order to get all the information on these rules & regulations. Know what you're up against and figure out if it's a battle you can win. If so, fight it the way they tell you with the info you need to win. Do I like all the the red tape? HELL NO! But don't let it discourage you if you don't know exactly what it says.

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Thanks all for your input. It was all helpfull (With the exception of ddawg16 who has no idea of what has transpired in my life over the past 25 years. What an attitude!). As it turns out, the young girl may be correct as the water run off law does allow for an addition less than 400 sq. ft. and mine is
220 sq ft. However this Twp. has been successfully sued twice in the past year for approving building plans that encroached on a neighbors property. They now appear to require certified plans on anything with a roof. Common sense is no longer allowed there. Can you spell PARANOIA? I have a call in to the Zoning Officer I originally spoke to however I won't hold my breath waiting for a call back. I will probably need to become a pest.
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Old 04-08-2013, 06:17 PM   #18
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Do you have a up-to-date or near up-to-date survey? This should show all improvements on the property. You could take a certified copy to the zoning office to show them what you have.
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Old 04-09-2013, 12:57 PM   #19
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It is not the building departments job to engineer your project to ensure that it doesn't violate municipal zoning codes. You are expecting that because YOU say that it is 135 feet from the set-back, that they should either accept your presentation or invest their own time to verify.

The point is, its on the owner to present to the Building Department, and subsequently the Zoning Department, that your intention to construct a building meets all applicable laws.

You did the drawings for the addition. Find an old plat of survey, or measure out the site and provide a drawing that shows that you are nowhere near the property line. If they require a CE, then they are saying that they don't trust your drawing, so make sure its correct, clear, and provides all the necessary information.
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I guess you learned your lesson.
I tried to get a permit one time: won't make that mistake again.
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You don't have a plot plan from when the house was built?
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25 years ago they didn't understand that covering everything and expecting the storm drains to handle all the run off wouldn't work. Now they do. You missed your window of ignorance. Now you'll have to abide by the regs that are there to actually serve the public good.

As for parking lots, they also have very large burdens put on them for storm water management. You just don't see it because it's engineered to not look obvious.
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Old 04-09-2013, 05:50 PM   #24
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See if you can design it in a way that it's portable and retractable, then maybe it's going to be considered custom lawn furniture and not a structure.

I too don't agree with these stupid government regulations. It's your yard you should be able to do what you want. If it's bad/against code etc, well it will just make it harder to sell later. Though the sad part is, it's technically not considered yours even though you paid for it and pay taxes on it. This world we live in is F$%ed up, when we can't even truly own land and build what/how we want on it. Meanwhile, megacorporations are allowed to do pretty much whatever they want even if it affects everyone else in a negative way. Sorry, I just get a little riled up myself when I hear these stories.
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They not stupid regs. They're there for a reason. Your 'yard' isn't the issue here. It's where the water that falls on your yard ends up going.

The world's more eff'ed up because of ignorance, now the regs have to be created to keep that same ignorance from making sh1t worse than it's already become. WAKE UP.
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That's why weeping tiles were invented. Though also I do agree the owner should do their best to keep water that originates from their property, on their property, then make it drain to the city as needed. But you don't need to completely stop people from building a structure, just make sure they're doing the right thing to control run off and other potential issues.

Sometimes, there's nothing you can do about water, especially around May/June when all the snow starts to melt in one shot. Up to each individual home owner to keep an eye on things and make sure water is not getting into any place it should not. I usually like to make a trench in my driveway leading to the road so water can flow off my property. Usually I can get right down to the concrete if it's warm enough out an the ice is softer. If water was coming from my neighbor's property and causing an issue I'd go talk to them and we'd work on fixing it it like grown ups, no need for pesky government regulations.


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