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Old 09-04-2007, 11:43 AM   #16
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"CODE" does not mean straight, square, plumb or pretty.

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Old 09-04-2007, 11:49 AM   #17
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"CODE" does not mean straight, square, plumb or pretty.
Of course not...but if your car is out of alignment or something similar that doesn't violate any DOT codes either. But does that mean you should accept that type of quality? I'm speaking straightly on the issue of quality of work and people's opinions in that regard, or any advice people may offer.
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Old 09-04-2007, 12:16 PM   #18
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It's a shame people travel down the road you're on. I'm sure that there is not one builder who would accept a contract stating that the framing has to be within a percentage of perfectly plumb and level.
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Old 09-04-2007, 12:18 PM   #19
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YES and NO !

it is sad what passes for good practice of the trade these days.

Take your square and go to your builders models. You have every reasonable expectation to receive the same quality level (pun intended).

At what stage is your construction?
GO TO THE BUILDERS MODEL, Document the quality.This is what you thought you were buying. If the builder is not giving you the same quality as the model..you will have them on misrepresentation.

Your contract will have wording like "per standard practice of the trade" The builder will argue that is what you got.

P.S. If you want out of your deal on the house [and get any of your money back] "breech of contract"
(a contract is a meeting of the minds) then you will need to demonstrate how the builder breeched the understanding first. IE: builder sold you on the apparent quality as shown you in the model home; builder refused to deliver same quality.

If you really want out then get legal advice. I'm sure the builder has his on retainer.

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Old 09-17-2007, 01:22 PM   #20
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Update: Did go to the builder's model (several different) and they all were pretty much square except for 1 or 2 areas in each model.

The builder has acknowledged all the problems and has assured us that they will be corrected. Corrected properly as well...areas will be torn down to the framing, framing will be corrected. The only thing I can say is that if you notice problems with your home, make sure you get them corrected before you close. So far I am happy with what I've heard, but we'll see what job they do in correcting the areas.
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Old 09-17-2007, 05:52 PM   #21
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I felt sick reading this thread.

I had a bad experience this past winter (I guess I was an idiot to expect reasonable workmanship standards), but my lesson learned only cost $4K.

I am very glad to hear about the positive turn of events, nikeair. I bet you and your wife lost a lot of sleep over that.
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Glad to hear that the builder is going correct the issues and even to the point of fixing it right.
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Old 10-04-2007, 09:21 AM   #23
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Update Again:

Work has been completed correcting all the problems...we did check throughout the process and they did correct the framing. They also did a custom under the stairs storage area that was promised (VERBALLY EVEN!) during the sales process. This was not included in any of the plans so we were very happy to see this done as well. Overall we've been very happy with the response we've received. Again I'm not sure we would receive the same after closing, but I guess we'll never know. We have also had the house inspected (whats $200?) and the inspector gave everything a green light regarding the electrical, structural, plumbing, etc.

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It was very frustrating during the process because we were on the verge of now NOT getting a house that we've been waiting 6-7 months for at that point. Now we're at a point where we'll be closing at the end of the month and we'll be happy to get in the house

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