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Old 07-30-2014, 07:16 PM   #1
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We are looking to build a very basic 10X10 room in the corner of our garage.. we have a huge extra space and want to make kind of like a den/extra storage type of thing. But it will be very very simple. The two walls that already exist already have electrical and several outlets.. so the other two walls that we would have to add won't really need any electrical. We are wondering how easy this would be to do ourselves? We plan to have someone come in and run our ac/heat to a vent in the room. But the rest we are thinking we could do ourselves. Add 2 walls, a door, add some carpet and paint the walls. The 2 existing walls are just basic drywall that has not been finished or painted. How easy do you think this would be for us? Where do we start?

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Actually adding the closed in space is pretty simple from your description, you need non-bearing walls, drywall, minimal utilities. HOWEVER, you really need to check with your building inspector, as this could conceivably be considered habitable space, which would kick you into an entirely different discussion, since it is in a garage. I wanted to close in some space in our garage as an entrance/mud room/laundry room, and when I discussed with the building inspector, he pointed out all the details required (fire rated door, Gyp-X, separation from house etc. Best to check first, there could be issues that only your building inspector will understand.

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Going to still need a permit in most cases.
Going to have to add outlets along the new walls.
Avoid adding a closet, if you do it may be considered a possible bedroom and open up a whole can of worms with zoning and the health dept.
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Yes to Dan ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

The actual construction is relatively simple, and probably a great place to learn..... but compliuance and code requirements are an issue with which you do not sound famiiar.

As a starter, you have certain electical compliance requirements for interior space ... and if not in compliance with local firecodes and electrical issues, it could be expensive if you ever wish to sell.

Good luck.... but don't be discoraged....there is not one person on here that was born knowing how to do it.... alot of good advice here if you decide to go further.

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what do you mean by habitable space? We can check.. but we went to Menards tonight and just priced the materials and found out what all we would need... and they didn't mention anything. Like I said, it will just be 2 basic walls, no electrical. We already have outlets and all electrical on the other two walls. We might use it as a spare room for guests as well. How do we get ahold of the building inspector? Will they just tell us the appropriate things we need for the room?
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you have to have outlets on all walls? We aren't doing a closet or anything.
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We are looking to build a very basic 10X10 room in the corner of our garage.. we have a huge extra space and want to make kind of like a den/extra storage type of thing. .....
Permit required.

If it was storage, it wouldn't need walls.

Neighbor down the street was living in the garage....one day the building inspector showed up....it took them 3 months to convert the garage back to a garage....and they also had to take down an up-permitted building in the back. I think the fines were pretty still.
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[QUOTE=mhp8982;1382848]what do you mean by habitable space? We can check.. but we went to Menards tonight and just priced the materials and found out what all we would need... and they didn't mention anything. Like I said, it will just be 2 basic walls, no electrical. We already have outlets and all electrical on the other two walls. We might use it as a spare room for guests as well. How do we get ahold of the building inspector? Will they just tell us the appropriate things we need for the room?[/QUOTE]

Well...Like anything.... You may have a BO (building official) that will be helpfull, or you may have an AH....(street vernacular, not a technical reference)

You do have to realize that building departments are not responsible/charged-with educating bulders.

It does not sound like you have too much building experience, maybe it is something you want to hire out, or if you have a friend with some more experience, he/she might be able to guide you in the basics, if you want to do it yourself,

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May need up to several permits.
Construction, wiring, at a minimum.
Why would a building supply have mentioned anything about permits or habitual living space?
There job is to just sell you the stuff, they could care less what your doing with it.
Yes you going to have to add outlets in the new walls to be able to pass code.
Best to call the code office and set up an appointment. Bring some simple drawings of what you plan to do.
DO NOT TELL THEM YOUR BUILDING A GUEST ROOM. Tell them it's a game room. If you do there going to consider it as adding another bedroom and the heath dept. gets involved and there going to get into changes in your septic system.
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Okay... how do I find out who to call? We do have a friend we might hire to do it. We just thought it would be simple since there are already outlets on the other walls.. didn't realize it would require so much. We can definitely call! How much do permits typically cost? Do they come out and inspect? If we hire someone, would they take care of all of this?
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I found the number for our city online. I will give them a call tomorrow and find out more. But I am still curious, if we hire someone to do it, is it their responsibility to get the permits? Or do we still have to get them first?
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Most jurisdoctions, your GC can pull permirs... but like anything, his time costs $.
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Right.. I know it will cost more hiring someone.. But worth it to have it done right.
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Lots of little detail will need to be addressed.
Pressure treated bottom plates.
Floors more then likely sloped so all the studs will need to be cut one at a time.
Any walls facing the garage area will need to be 5/8 fire code sheetrock.
If there's a door opening into the garage it also will have to be 1 hour fire rated (or more depending on local code)
May need to be arc fault protected breakers.
May also require an egress window.
Lighting circuit.
HVAC ducts.
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Lots of little detail will need to be addressed.
Pressure treated bottom plates.
Floors more then likely sloped so all the studs will need to be cut one at a time.
Any walls facing the garage area will need to be 5/8 fire code sheetrock.
If there's a door opening into the garage it also will have to be 1 hour fire rated (or more depending on local code)
May need to be arc fault protected breakers.
May also require an egress window.
Lighting circuit.
HVAC ducts.
Also if it has a door opening into the garage the floor of the room itself may need to be raised depending on the local codes. Some places require any room that is occupied to be raised above the ground floor level to prevent fumes from entering.

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