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Old 04-22-2009, 06:16 PM   #31
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I've seen a lot of fences

I've NEVER seen that method before
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Old 04-22-2009, 06:25 PM   #32
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As long as the posts are planted firmly and deep enough I don't see 4 1/2" (3 - 2X4) being enough to be a problem. That said what I see would make me suspect of the quality of the work.

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Old 04-22-2009, 06:29 PM   #33
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I have built a lot of fences and I would never consider that method. How does a tree create that situation? It is either in the way or not. Stumps/rocks I can understand, but you allow for that as you dig the holes and set the posts laterally. That is, if you have to move 2 foot to the left, you also have to move the remaining posts 2' to the left to maintain post spacing.
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Old 04-22-2009, 08:43 PM   #34
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That was after he suggested that it was probably done to avoid stumps or trees. The next time I talked to him, he said that he had talked to his boss and to the guy who had done the work, and that it had been done to avoid stumps or trees.
Forgive me if I'm wrong here but; Sounds to me like you may have inadvertently asked (before anything was ever mentioned) if the posts were that way, because of stumps or trees. Once they heard that question coming from you, they in turn got toegther, talked it over, and when he came back cynically agreed with your assumption, thus "in some foolish way" thinking he had cleared themselves of bad judgement. Besides they may have assumed that you wouldn't know any different.

Look, I've dug many holes in the past 25 years and I have what is called a "pinch bar" specifically for cutting roots that are deeper then 24", and they normally are no bigger in diameter then 5". If their on the surface, my gosh, that's what my Sawsall is for!!

Besides, you say that some of the post don't have trees near them to justify the post misalignment
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but as far as I can tell, the others didn't happen because of trees or stumps.
I'm beginning to smell a dead fish here. Call a lawyer! The pictures of this mess will speak for themselves. There's nothing to hide, not even incompetence!!!!! And or neglect! Now my stomach is turning

Don't let'm get away with this. If they had said ledge or a giant boulders was the issue, that's understandable, but in this case their knee deep in deception & lies. AAAARGH!
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Old 04-22-2009, 09:00 PM   #35
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Forgive me if I'm wrong here but; Sounds to me like you may have inadvertently asked (before anything was ever mentioned) if the posts were that way, because of stumps or trees. Once they heard that question coming from you, they in turn got toegther, talked it over, and when he came back cynically agreed with your assumption, thus "in some foolish way" thinking he had cleared themselves of bad judgement. Besides they may have assumed that you wouldn't know any different.

Look, I've dug many holes in the past 25 years and I have what is called a "pinch bar" specifically for cutting roots that are deeper then 24", and they normally are no bigger in diameter then 5". If their on the surface, my gosh, that's what my Sawsall is for!!

Besides, you say that some of the post don't have trees near them to justify the post misalignment

I'm beginning to smell a dead fish here. Call a lawyer! The pictures of this mess will speak for themselves. There's nothing to hide, not even incompetence!!!!! And or neglect! Now my stomach is turning

Don't let'm get away with this. If they had said ledge or a giant boulders was the issue, that's understandable, but in this case their knee deep in deception & lies. AAAARGH!

Although cutting roots out of the way is deffinately an option, you have to consider the damage that will be done to the tree. Most people would rather move a post than pay $1000 to have a large tree removed. Disease can easily get to the tree when roots are cut underground causing it to die.
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Although cutting roots out of the way is deffinately an option, you have to consider the damage that will be done to the tree. Most people would rather move a post than pay $1000 to have a large tree removed. Disease can easily get to the tree when roots are cut underground causing it to die.

With all due respect curapa, your missing the point! But I understand what your saying, and as contractor I would clearly bring it up to the customer if I was about to cut a major root vain. But it is rare, and most roots I've encountered were minor in size.
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I asked about surveying the property, and they asked if we had a plat map (we found 3 of our 4 corner markers), but then they didn't ask for it once they got to the site.
That would concern me a bit,one of the first things I ask about is property markers and if they aren't there I won't do the install until they are set.If they fenced you're entire yard having 3 of 4 pins is not good.

[QUOTEIt is true that they were working at the edge of a wooded area (so I would like to know if it is unreasonable to expect them to fix it). ][/QUOTE]

I would be wondering if they even used a string line between the pins.No it is not unreasonable to have them fix it I would demand it.

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Same here and I couldn't agree more.
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