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Old 10-21-2012, 10:38 PM   #1
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Was working on my parents' home, they wanted me to redo a small portion of their garage ceiling drywall due to a roof leak. When I was removing the portion of the ceiling a bunch of loose fill insulation fell. I was wearing a general dust mask and goggles.

But I was just wondering, from what I remember just hearing from random people, they stopped using asbestos in homes by 1970 right? The house was built between 1979 and 1981, and without getting it tested, just was seeing if this loose fill insulation could have asbestos in it. The loose fill insulation looked a bit brown, but it could be due to the water from the roof leak discoloring it? I kind of remember some parts of the dry loose fill insulation looked grey, like cellulose, but I have to go to their house to check.

Attached some pictures to show. I may get it tested since I'm a bit of a hypochondriac, Thanks in advance

Oh, and as you can tell, one of the photos shows the ceiling prior to me cutting it out.
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It's unlikely with the age of the home---but possible----for good measure---spray the garage with water as you sweep to keep any of the dust from going airborne---

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Thanks oh'mike, I thought it was unlikely to contain asbestos as well. Good idea about the water too.
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Here is a good link to possible asbestos issues in a home...

http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/pubs/453.html

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Where Asbestos Hazards May Be Found In The Home
  1. Some roofing and siding shingles are made of asbestos cement.
  2. Houses built between 1930 and 1950 may have asbestos as insulation.
  3. Asbestos may be present in textured paint and in patching compounds used on wall and ceiling joints. Their use was banned in 1977.
  4. Artificial ashes and embers sold for use in gas-fired fireplaces may contain asbestos.
  5. Older products such as stove-top pads may have some asbestos compounds.
  6. Walls and floors around woodburning stoves may be protected with asbestos paper, millboard, or cement sheets.
  7. Asbestos is found in some vinyl floor tiles and the backing on vinyl sheet flooring and adhesives.
  8. Hot water and steam pipes in older houses may be coated with an asbestos material or covered with an asbestos blanket or tape.
  9. Oil and coal furnaces and door gaskets may have asbestos insulation.
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What you have appears to be cellulose insulation, which would not contain asbestos. Don't be led to believe that all asbestos was banned from all products in the U.S.

Between 2000-2007, the U.S. imported 110,000,000 pounds of the stuff. And that was just for use in manufacture in the U.S. Who knows what is coming in products manufactured off shore?

Regarding the previous list, #2, Houses that have had vermiculite installed as insulation may well be later than the 1950s.

#9. All kinds of high temperature insulation on stoves, ovens, water heaters and boilers can contain asbestos, including the breaching and pipe cement on exhaust stacks.

I've seen it in caulking, drywall, drywall compound and acoustical tiles too.
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I don't think you have asbestos, that looks like black mold though.
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Good reminder on making sure it's wet before you start clean up...something that I forgot!
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Sound's unlikely that 's asbestos, but you need to get specialists in to remove the stuff.
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mold is very likely, even though it was banned at that time frame it could still have traces in the insulation,
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Contrary to common wisdom, asbestos containing products are still perfectly legal in the United States, and are still in use. The main supplier of asbestos mineral is Canada, which still sells asbestos mineral for use throughout the world. The EPA lost a court case in which it sought to ban asbestos outright.

By the way, the word "asbestos" is not actually defined by the EPA, they typically refer to "asbestos form fibers". There are several dozen different minerals which can be processed to create long, very small fibers, which are strong, essentially fireproof, and have been used in an astonishing variety of products over the years, including insulation, brake pads, tiles, roofing material, siding, paint, countertops, you name it. The ONLY way to know if a particular product contains "asbestos" is to have it tested by a laboratory. It is much less likely that a recently constructed house contains "asbestos" than an older house, but anyone who assures you there is some magic cutoff date is mistaken.

That said, "asbestos" is only considered to be dangerous when inhaled. The EPA contains a pretty decent website explaining how to test for asbestos (this takes a lab, cannot be done visually), and how to clean it up and dispose of it.
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That insulation doesn't contain asbestos but still not good to breath. Probably contains mold and mouse poop. I always set up a couple box fans and I always take a break after a big cloud forms from dropping big pieces. Use a respirator also
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I paid a price in the form of a loose diagnosis of "environmental pneumonia" once for boldly crawling around, cares to the wind and demo-ing antique homes. I don't think I ever breathed in asbestos fibers but I am now diligent about wearing at least dust masks if not an aspirator working around any insulation and airborne dust.
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I paid a price in the form of a loose diagnosis of "environmental pneumonia" once for boldly crawling around, cares to the wind and demo-ing antique homes. I don't think I ever breathed in asbestos fibers but I am now diligent about wearing at least dust masks if not an aspirator working around any insulation and airborne dust.

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That insulation doesn't contain asbestos but still not good to breath. Probably contains mold and mouse poop. I always set up a couple box fans and I always take a break after a big cloud forms from dropping big pieces. Use a respirator also
For a minute I thought you said 'moose poop' i was thinking 'how could a moose get up there' lol!

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