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Old 06-18-2013, 09:27 AM   #1
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I stick built a nice picket fence around my front yard last summer, learned a lot. (I'm capable).

This year, I am going to build a 6' privacy fence between my house and garage. I want a gate in it, somewhat off-center to the left of the trees where you see the Bronco parked. I originally didn't think much of the width, but thinking back to when I bought the house, I remember a septic truck driving back there, presumably to pump out my tank.

Is this something I should take into consideration? Or do they have long enough hoses?

Not sure if I should do double-3' (lawn equipment etc.), or double-4's or do I really need a 10' gate? Sag is obviously a concern. I will be hanging them off 6x6 PT posts buried at a minimum 3' into the ground.

Should I be looking at something sliding instead?

FWIW, this house is going to be a rental house at the end of summer; I'm moving.

Thanks for any input.



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no vehicle that travels on the roadways should be over 8' in width unless it has a special permit, this include pump truck as well as firetrucks. with that in mind I would think that a double 4' gate would be sufficient. I'd install a roller/wheel on the base of the gate so that when you open it the gate can roll across the blacktop.

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You might want to check your vehicle code. I think you might find 102 inches.

California allows fire trucks up to 120 inches.

Even on the 102 inch width vehicles, mirrors extend beyond that width.

I would suggest a minimum of 10 foot width. Personally, I like a 3 (or 4) foot pedestrian gate with a 7 (or 6) foot gate that you open when it will not go thru the pedestrian gate.
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Oso,

thank you, you are correct, I was going off old data ...... see we can all learn something new
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Just wondering, since is going to be a rental house, why you spending the money for the fence? Almost every fence I've ever seen at a rental property ends up getting beat up.
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Good question Msradell. The whole back yard is fenced in with a 6' privacy fence. This is only a 25' span in question. I am the labor, so I am not looking at very much money at all in material to complete this and close in the yard.

I hear you on the rental thing. Cross my fingers and hope for the best I guess.

I've decided to go with 10' for the "just in case" factor, with car/boat trailers and anything else. It's not going to cost any extra to go wider.

The blacktop is at an angle going down the driveway, so I'm not sure how I'd make a wheel work...?
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If you close it in, the renters will get a dog. I have a dog, and I love her but dogs increase the dirt in factor by about 5, not to mention that renters never care as much as owners (Not in this day and age) and the dog might poop in the basement. As far as a gate goes, if you decide to go ahead, I would install a personnel gate 3.5 or 4 feet, and install a removable section of fence that bolts in place.
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Yeah I have a pair of dogs myself. Holy hell are they dirty.
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Go the wider 10', you will not be sorry.
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I was advised that I should set my 6x6 posts out-of-plumb by half a bubble. Is that good advice? I know that the weight of the gate will pull on the posts, but I don't know how much give a 6x6 PT post will have (if any)
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6 X 6 post is super solid for that run on fencing with a swing gate..could add a wheel plat to take the open swing load like a shopping cart wheel.the gate itself will have cross members to firm up the gate swing .suggestion forget the lag bolts socketed into the wood posts for the hinges three each... go with nuts washers and bolts won't have to touch it till you sell the place..
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I'd put a wheel on there, but the problem is the sloping driveway, so it wouldn't work out too well I don't think.

Glad the 6x6 will work well though.
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6 X 6 post is super solid for that run on fencing with a swing gate..could add a wheel plat to take the open swing load like a shopping cart wheel.the gate itself will have cross members to firm up the gate swing .suggestion forget the lag bolts socketed into the wood posts for the hinges three each... go with nuts washers and bolts won't have to touch it till you sell the place..
Do they make the long ones (6-7") in that black coating? Or just paint the heads...

How the %$&* will I get both gates hung and aligned with each other?


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