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ann0123f 06-28-2012 10:43 PM

4X4s as shed frame?
 
Is there any problem with making a frame for an 8ft square shed out of 4X4X8s?
It would give me exactly the measurements I want. I would use 2X4s as the joists in the middle. What length and width of screw would one use to attach them together without splitting?

I thought about screwing together two 2X6s but I'd still be .5 inch short. I
don't have a lot of carpentry skills to work with here and would rather not have
to do a bunch of extra cutting if I can get what I need from 4X4s. The shed
will be on blocks if that makes any difference.

If all else fails does anyone know where I'd find plans to make a simple shed floor for an 8'square building? I have plans for the shed itself but not the floor. As far as I can tell, the actual floor would have to be 99.5 inches square to accomadate the shed frame and make 8'square. Am I having a total failure to comprehend?
Thanks,
Ann

joecaption 06-28-2012 10:54 PM

Not sure how you plan to build a shed if you do not even have a clue how to cut the wood, there's going to be a lot of cutting.

Now of the things you suggested would work.

4 X 4's would be fine for runners to sit it on to keep it off the ground but there not for framing.
They tend to twist and check.
The floor joist you suggested using are not even close to what you need for a floor.
Not sure what book you bought that does not even show to build the floor, but I'd toss that one and find a better one.
And your going to have to learn how to use a saw and read a tape measure.
If not just buy a store bought shed and be done with it.

ann0123f 06-28-2012 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joecaption (Post 953760)
Not sure how you plan to build a shed if you do not even have a clue how to cut the wood, there's going to be a lot of cutting.

Now of the things you suggested would work.

4 X 4's would be fine for runners to sit it on to keep it off the ground but there not for framing.
They tend to twist and check.
The floor joist you suggested using are not even close to what you need for a floor.
Not sure what book you bought that does not even show to build the floor, but I'd toss that one and find a better one.
And your going to have to learn how to use a saw and read a tape measure.
If not just buy a store bought shed and be done with it.

I can cut and be reasonably accurate. I just don't trust myself a lot and would rather not have to cut if I don't have to. How would you do it, if it were you?

epson 06-28-2012 11:24 PM

start here:http://ca.video.search.yahoo.com/sea...o+build+a+shed

CoconutPete 06-29-2012 02:52 PM

How is a 4x4 going to "give you the exact measurement you want"? This part confuses me.

scottktmrider 07-01-2012 08:07 AM

What are you using the 4x4's for all you need is 2x4's and plywood.Go under your house and look at your floor on your house is framed and thats the way you want to do it.

hand drive 07-01-2012 09:00 AM

Here is a material list that should build the 8x8 x8 shed
12- 2x8 x8 treated wood,2 pieces 4x8 treated 3/4 plywood- floor system. 16" center layout
42-2x4x8 whitewood, wall studs along with top and bottom plates- wall system. 16" center layout with a double top plate system. 9 pieces osb plywood for wall sheathing,2 pieces per side with 1 piece ripped in half for the upper "A's" .
13 -2x6x12 whitewood ,10 to be cut in half for rafters and the other three for fascia and ridge. standard 4 pitch "A" framed roof at 16" centers with a 12" to 16" soffit overhang. 6 pieces 4x8 osb sheathing for roof sheathing.

to support the roof over top of the door there will be a door header in one of the walls so door header material will be needed also.

For the floor system there will be a double 2x8 outer band perpendicular to the joist direction with block piers placed on each corner for an effective weight load distribution transfer path.

note: all nails,screws used in flooring system must be made for use with pressure treated lumber...

joecaption 07-01-2012 09:08 AM

4 X 4's are not exactly 8', most of your framing lumber will be longer then the length it's being sold as.

Buy a shed kit, or buy one already assembled may be the way to go on this one since you have never done this before.
Using 2 X 4's for floor joist would be a huge mistake. There good for about a
4' span, anymore and there going to sag and break.

scottktmrider 07-01-2012 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joecaption (Post 955323)
4 X 4's are not exactly 8', most of your framing lumber will be longer then the length it's being sold as.

Buy a shed kit, or buy one already assembled may be the way to go on this one since you have never done this before.
Using 2 X 4's for floor joist would be a huge mistake. There good for about a
4' span, anymore and there going to sag and break.

Good idea;I think they also offer a floor kit you can buy seperate.


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