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Old 05-04-2012, 06:38 PM   #16
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Yeah, you are all quick to reply that is is not feasible, why not hold your horses and wait until somebody who does know about floor leveling and structural integrity tell the OP what they can do themselves? I'm sure there is SOMETHING a homeowner can do to save time/money instead of paying a contractor hundreds or thousands.
I think you'll find that we've asked for photos, but even that is not sufficient to give advice online. No one is suggesting it will cost hundreds or thousands, only that it needs on site inspection and evaluation. If the captain of the Titanic came on here, would you rather we tell him to plug the hole with gum?

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Old 05-04-2012, 06:43 PM   #17
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It looks from the photo like the two posts are sitting directly on the slab, there may not be a footing underneath them. That should be corrected. The posts need to be properly attached both at the top and bottom, that means use of the correct bracket. Improper attachment detail can lead to sudden, catastrophic failure in the event of impact (vehicle hits post or house), high wind, earthquake.

The framing should be looked at closely, obviously impossible to tell how large and what type of beam is holding up the fireplace, it may be undersized. There are standard ways to frame a bay window, you may want to adopt a similar method for the overhanging fireplace.

This job may be suitable for a skilled DIY'er, but it is certainly an advanced project due to the need for temporary bracing, probable installation of new footings, and probable need for framing modifications to the overhang. You could certainly hire an engineer, but it is probably not necessary, a skilled framer with deep code knowledge and practical experience can likely take care of fixing the problems.

If you decide to fix this yourself, a couple words of caution. You are almost certainly going to need to remove one or both posts, so you are going to need temporary support. People can and do get killed and injured due to inadequate support, so make absolutely sure you totally understand how to support this safely before you start. Halfway into the project is a very bad time to start wondering if the supports are going to hold. Be careful out there.
You raised some good points as usual, DH, but I wouldn't recommend even an advanced DIYer. I know many contractors who would screw this up...just as the original one did!
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Thanks very much to all with their advice and suggestions especially Mr. Holzman... it really is very much appreciated. I am going to try and correct this with the help of a knowledgable friend and will not take any chances with the support as I do not want the fireplace on my patio.. But as someone so astutely pointed out... an experienced builder/contractor with a permit was the person responsible for this disaster in the first place.
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Old 05-05-2012, 07:40 AM   #19
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those two posts are not only holding up the fireplace that is hanging out in the air but also the entire second floor above the porch. please be very careful if you decide to do anything in that spot!!! the entire back side of the house is capable of falling down!!!! if the concrete slab where the posts sit looks like it is cracking then slab integrity is in question. the slanted post is not really an issue or cause for to much concern imo.

I have built a three story house that had three outside porches per floor level on the outside corner of the house and an 8 x8 post at each floor level on each outside corner holding the floors up. After the structure is built, posts in that situation are extremely dangerous to mess with or do anything with, be very very careful


edit to add... if you get on a ladder on the outside corner of the porch and get at eye level and look across the section where the house sits atop of the 2 posts you will see if there is a sag in that area, most likely the case.


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