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Old 10-07-2013, 03:45 PM   #31
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Its not really in a corner just beside the center 4x4. I have the nails hammered flat to the hanger and want to replace them with the correct nails.

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Take the corner apart? Trivia tip; solid blocking is 66% stronger than x-bridging unless you add a 1x4 to joist bottoms (impossible in your case) then x is 167% stronger than solid blocking. Don't you feel smarter now, lol?

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I'm curious. Stronger in what way? Ability to resist joist rotation or load distribution?
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Its not really in a corner just beside the center 4x4. I have the nails hammered flat to the hanger and want to replace them with the correct nails.
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Its not really in a corner just beside the center 4x4. I have the nails hammered flat to the hanger and want to replace them with the correct nails.
just try to add some correct nails, and leave the others.
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Guilty as charged, baited you for that, lol; http://www.ewpa.com/Archive/2004/jun/Paper_278.pdf

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just try to add some correct nails, and leave the others.
I ended up putting 2 of the 3.5" correct nails in where the tabs on the hangers are. The nails in that one are galvanized but they are thinner than the Simpson nails. I don't think its going anywhere once I get the decking down and all the weight is disperced over multiple joists.
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i think you will be good to go, at least for a good while. one thing you have on your side = if/when it fails, it won't have far to go.
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Guilty as charged, baited you for that, lol;
Actually, I read that paper about two years ago, thanks to you. If you don't mind, I'll send you a private message since something about the results really puzzles me and I don't want to further hijack this thread.
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Now... how do I frame the ramp? Next time I'm off I plan to put up the last 3 joists and frame the ramp so I can figure how how much decking I need and go get that over with.
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Also, when I do put the decking down, do I need to put 2 screws in each joist for each piece of decking? Is it every other joist maybe? I'm estimating needing 22 10' pieces of decking and am getting the cheap standard stuff from home depot.

I'm not sure about the ramp part yet though. The lawnmower with the flap down by the grass shoot is about 50" and I obviously want to have plenty of room for error when riding up an down so I'm leaning towards 5' width.
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Can some one give me an angle to cut the top of the ramp stringers at? That way I can just figure out the bottom taper.
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Always 2, screws per joist in each deck board. There's never any skipping every other one.
10' X 12 = 120" divided by 5.5 = 21.81 so I'd pick up 22 boards for the decking.
Done right there should be about 1/2" over hang on all sides.
Pull a tape measure to figure out how long you need that ramp and do the math the same way.
The ends of the joist for that ramp need to be sitting on patio blocks so there not making direct ground contact.
DO not cheap out and make the ramp to short. If it's to short it will be to steep and the mower deck will bottom out at the top of the ramp.
May want to also pick up some of these hangers for the ramps.
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Those look nice but not sure if I can get it on the one side since that joist is basically toughing the ground and those need to be bent underneath the joist from my understanding of what I read.

I was thinking I could use 3 2x6 joists and put a piece of 2x4 under the joists for them to have something to rest on along with the nails in the 2x6s them selves. The angle should be 20 degrees right? Could I cut a 20 degree angle off the top of the joists and taper the bottoms to a point once cut to length? I have a miter saw so cutting the 20 degree angle would be easy to do.
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I found a formula online that says the stringers need to be 1' long for every inch off the ground. So, if one side is 9" off the ground the stringers going to be 9'? That seems a little long to me. Heres the link
http://m.voices.yahoo.com/how-build-...p-3469333.html

Edit: I just found this and it looks a lot better.

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