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Old 01-15-2013, 10:44 PM   #16
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My Grandfather passed away a couple years ago, he was 98. He was a top notch union electrician way back when and did some major commercial projects in his time.
I'm not going to tell you how he used to test live circuits but going on the subject of this thread, you can take a wild guess how. He was indeed a tough old guy!
Let me guess. Started by licking two fingers??
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My question-----just how many breakers are there in the box? Is it that difficult to find which one turns off the circuit?
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Let me guess. Started by licking two fingers??
Burn marks on the back of his hand?
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His alias alone disqualifies him from touching electrical
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I know i shouldnt work hot but i cant find the breaker
Can't find the specific breaker, or can't find the breaker box?

If you can't identify which breaker, just flick them ALL off.

If you can't find the breaker box, start at where the power comes into your house, where the meter is. If there's not a big switch or breaker box there, look on the opposite side that wall. There pretty much has to be a service disconnect within a short distance of where the power enters the dwelling.
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Old 01-16-2013, 12:41 PM   #22
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Never had a screwdriver slip off a screw you were screwing in?

Never had a wrench slip off a nut?

Have you always kept your balance while working on something?
(Cranking down on a nut, the wrench slips off the nut and you go flying...)

Accidentally grabbed something you should not grab to catch your fall?

That is the problem with working with live electricity. A tool or you slip - a wire slips out and springs back to touch you - you loose your balance and grab onto to something (without time to think) and ZAP!

These things happen to everybody I know who works with mechanical fasteners (screws, nuts, bolts). Best this not happen around live electricity!

If you have the option to turn off electricity before doing work (breaker, main, or have electric company turn off power), then that is the BEST option...
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I know i shouldnt work hot but i cant find the breaker and im only changing a switch, how would i go about it. If i had di-electric boots would i be safe from shock. Will having the screwdriver on the hot wire and me touching the switch will i get a shock

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If you have to ask this question, then you really shouldn't even be considering it, at all, nevermind the fact that when you have the luxury of being able to turn off power, you should.
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First you need to make sure someone with a youtube account and video camera are present.
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First you need to make sure someone with a youtube account and video camera are present.
Talk about your black comedies...

OK seriously, here is what you should do (I know you won't do it, but at least there won't be a class action suit against the forum members.)

1. Turn off breaker
2. Wear these gloves, especially since there's a good chance you didn't get the right breaker

http://www.highvoltagesupplies.com/s...eblue-1026.cfm

In case you were wondering, you wear both gloves at the same time. No, the orange ones go on first.

Touching 2 different electrical things with 2 different parts of your body (e.g. left hand and right hand) at the same time is one good way to die. Water counts as 1 "electrical thing". I'd avoid touching water even with your new gloves on.

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If i had di-electric boots would i be safe from shock.
By the way, definitely not.
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Talk about your black comedies...

OK seriously, here is what you should do...
The only thing he should be doing is turning off the main and testing to confirm it's dead before working on it. Or hiring an electrician.
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The only thing he should be doing is turning off the main and testing to confirm it's dead before working on it.
So you advise him to NOT wear gloves.
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Pick a time during daylight when there is plenty of light in the room where you will be working. Then turn off the main. You can change an ordinary light switch in ten minutes. It won't be long enough for the house to get cold, and it definitely won't be long enough for anything in the fridge to thaw. Yeah, you'll have to re-enter the time of day on the microwave oven afterwards. It's a small price to pay.

Sometime after you've changed the switch, get someone to help you isolate which circuit that switch is on. If you go through your entire panel and can't find the one that shuts it off, you may have a sub-panel somewhere that you don't know about. Or you may have a wiring problem, e.g., the circuit that the switch is on is being back-fed by another circuit.
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So you advise him to NOT wear gloves.
Yeah. What's the point? They're hard to work in, and he shouldn't be working on anything that isn't confirmed dead. Nobody wears gloves except for hot work, which he shouldn't be doing.

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