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Old 06-15-2011, 06:30 PM   #91
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This is amain panel, so theground barkit get attached with the screws that come with it. Than just start putting to ground wires under each terminal. You do not to add a jumper wire.

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This is amain panel, so theground barkit get attached with the screws that come with it. Than just start putting to ground wires under each terminal. You do not to add a jumper wire.
I tried to hook up the ground kit, but I have no space for it. . I ended up using thr "back row bar" as it's pretty empty. I had a hard time putting the neutral and ground wires though. Down the road, I'd probably have to clean it up using sub-panel. Any idea what wire size should I use for 50amp sub-panel?

On another note, I'd like to thank everyone for their inputs. My trench passed the inspection and my pool is scheduled to be up today. Hopefully, I have time to bond 'em while the sun is up. If not, hopefully by Monday I can pass the final inspection.
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One thing I did notice from your pic is the equipment grounds are a mess. They should be cleaned up and terminated per the panel label. Not wrapped up in a knot. If it is a main service both the equipment grounding and neutral conductors can terminate on the same bar, but under different screws.
I bought an old house, and since it passed its inspection (and I am not an electrician) I never put time looking at my panel. I live here for about 5 years now, and after installing my first addition of 20a breaker, I agree more than 100% about the mess I'm dealing with - eg the bar in the back row is almost empty, while the one in front is "jampacked", and then there are screws handling 3 neutrals, while there are grounds installed on either back or front bars. I've been into datacom/telecom business, and I thought this is worse than the "spaghetti" wires in data center. I'll try to clean it up using sub-panel... but not today... hopefully, in the next quarter or so.
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I bought an old house, and since it passed its inspection (and I am not an electrician) I never put time looking at my panel. I live here for about 5 years now, and after installing my first addition of 20a breaker, I agree more than 100% about the mess I'm dealing with - eg the bar in the back row is almost empty, while the one in front is "jampacked", and then there are screws handling 3 neutrals, while there are grounds installed on either back or front bars. I've been into datacom/telecom business, and I thought this is worse than the "spaghetti" wires in data center. I'll try to clean it up using sub-panel... but not today... hopefully, in the next quarter or so.
When you redo the neutrals, one wire per terminal. Grounds follow the panel label..
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Any idea what wire size should I use for 50amp sub-panel?
It's in the NEC.
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Bonding is like handshaking, hugging your buddy. Basically it is a piece of wire as specified in either the manual of the equipment, or the rules by your AHJ at a certain awg to connect between the equipment and a ground. Keep in mind how close your neighbors are, and if you have a HOA, because they can cause your pool to become more of a headache, especially those neighbors that think they are instantly invited all the time to use it.

Also, check to make sure if you need an alarm on the gate & back door, which is usually mandated in insurance policy. With wifi cams being cheap now days, I would get one and set it up to alert you if any activity, especially with the iPhone, there is a app called iCam, which works with multiple cameras. Good luck and let us know how things go.
Sorry, just caught this. Grounding and bonding are two completely different things and the purpose of the bonding wire is not to ground anything. It is to eliminate any difference of potential between metal objects around and associated with the pool.

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