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Old 11-28-2012, 04:49 PM   #1
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Hi.

I am just making sure I am doing this right, as I cannot find any definitive diagrams on it. This is for the first light in my setup below.

The situation is, I have power into light fixture > light fixture > ceiling fan/light > 3 way light fixture, with each one having power to their own switch.

I am using an on/off dimmer for a switch,
this one a Leviton 6633.

So the instruction there show power to switch > fixture, and I cannot really find anything like the setup I have.

I'll put a picture in here to show what I believe I need to do.

Second question is , I noticed with this setup that I may have a problem with box fill, but then read in the code book that the wires from the fixture do not count if they are attached to the fixture. Does this also apply to ceiling fans?

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This is a new installation and I am in Alberta, Canada

pink in the picture is white. I just noticed I forgot the green from the switch, but that would end up with the rest.

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OK, I guess no news is good news and I'll do it like I thought.

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I think everyone is confused by your diagram and your written description is also confusing.
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I think everyone is confused by your diagram and your written description is also confusing.
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OK, sorry about that, I'll try again.

from the breaker 14/2 to a ceiling light fixture box, inside that box (pictured) splits to 1. the next ceiling light box + the dimmer switch + the light fixture. It does the exact same thing in the next ceiling light box, the 3rd ceiling light box is the same but it is a ceiling fan/light, the 4th ceiling light box will be a 3 way.

Inside the first ceiling light box(pictured) I have the connections as follows.

1.
black in (from breaker)
black out to next ceiling light box
white(taped black on ends) from black lead on dimmer switch

2.
white in(from breaker)
white out(to next ceiling box)
white wire from light fixture

3.
black wire from light fixture
black wire connected to dimmer switch red wire

3.
ground in
ground out
green wire from light fixture
green from switch
ground pigtail attached to light fixture bar.
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Is this what you are trying to tell/show us ?
(Grounds left out for clarity.)
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Is this what you are trying to tell/show us ?
(Grounds left out for clarity.)
Yes, that is essentially it, but I had to whip mine together quickly with MSPaint, and went for a xmas look on the light fixture.

Looks like it's the same, pretty much.

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from the breaker 14/2 to a ceiling light fixture box, inside that box (pictured) splits to 1. the next ceiling light box + the dimmer switch + the light fixture. It does the exact same thing in the next ceiling light box, the 3rd ceiling light box is the same but it is a ceiling fan/light, the 4th ceiling light box will be a 3 way.

You can go back and check my posts. I usually try to whip up a diagram to help out wiring dilemmas BUT This is the most confusing explanation I think I've ever seen on this forum.
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On the plus side, I think your diagram did have a nice Christmas flair to it.
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OK, sorry about that, I'll try again.

from the breaker 14/2 to a ceiling light fixture box, inside that box (pictured) splits to 1. the next ceiling light box + the dimmer switch + the light fixture. It does the exact same thing in the next ceiling light box, the 3rd ceiling light box is the same but it is a ceiling fan/light, the 4th ceiling light box will be a 3 way.

Inside the first ceiling light box(pictured) I have the connections as follows.

1.
black in (from breaker)
black out to next ceiling light box
white(taped black on ends) from black lead on dimmer switch

2.
white in(from breaker)
white out(to next ceiling box)
white wire from light fixture

3.
black wire from light fixture
black wire connected to dimmer switch red wire

3.
ground in
ground out
green wire from light fixture
green from switch
ground pigtail attached to light fixture bar.
Start with the wiring at the power in point and tell us what you would like to do. Let us tell you how to wire it.

This is what you said originally

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The situation is, I have power into light fixture > light fixture > ceiling fan/light > 3 way light fixture, with each one having power to their own switch.

I am using an on/off dimmer for a switch,
this one a Leviton 6633.
Go into paint and do a series line diagram (use rectangles) showing where power enters and then a box for each fixture and switch(s) that controls that fixture. Don't show any wires. Use some kind of code for what each rectangle represents. Also what to you mean by 3 way fixture...ie...a light controlled from two locations or just a 3 way bulb like in a table lamp.

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Start with the wiring at the power in point and tell us what you would like to do. Let us tell you how to wire it.

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Go into paint and do a series line diagram (use rectangles) showing where power enters and then a box for each fixture and switch(s) that controls that fixture. Don't show any wires. Use some kind of code for what each rectangle represents. Also what to you mean by 3 way fixture...ie...a light controlled from two locations or just a 3 way bulb like in a table lamp.
OK, next time I'll spend a bit more time on it.
The part of it going out to the 2nd, 3rd and 4th boxes wasn't really too important, but I thought I'd throw it in for reference.
The main question just involved power in and out connected to switch and fixture.

I used to have the electrical module for visio which would've worked way better, but coudn't find it. I think it is on an older pc.

I was just looking at another picture, in the code book actually, and trying to copy it, but it looks completely unrealistic with only straight lines. I could not get the curvy or free hand lines to look any better.
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OK, next time I'll spend a bit more time on it.
The part of it going out to the 2nd, 3rd and 4th boxes wasn't really too important, but I thought I'd throw it in for reference.
The main question just involved power in and out connected to switch and fixture.

I used to have the electrical module for visio which would've worked way better, but coudn't find it. I think it is on an older pc.

I was just looking at another picture, in the code book actually, and trying to copy it, but it looks completely unrealistic with only straight lines. I could not get the curvy or free hand lines to look any better.
Most people here just use Paint. I find it helps if you fill the whole canvas with a medium gray first (see OSO's drawing), then you can use real colors for everything (black, white, red, green, etc.)

I actually like the straight line drawings better, I find it's easier to trace the wiring. A schematic need not represent the physical layout, just the electrical connections.
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Most people here just use Paint. I find it helps if you fill the whole canvas with a medium gray first (see OSO's drawing), then you can use real colors for everything (black, white, red, green, etc.)

I actually like the straight line drawings better, I find it's easier to trace the wiring. A schematic need not represent the physical layout, just the electrical connections.
Never even thought of that, great idea.
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The main question just involved power in and out connected to switch and fixture.

According to your description, below is a simple diagram. I do not show ground wires for ease of drawing
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