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Old 07-12-2012, 08:01 AM   #61
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What you should end up with is the power black, the receptacle black and the receptacle red connected to one screw on the switch, and the new fixture black on the other screw of the switch.
The recepticle still gets switched?
In series with the ceiling light?
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Old 07-12-2012, 08:36 AM   #62
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The three wore does not go back to your panel. It's in the receptacle box and the switch box. Should he the same wire. One of the earlier posts had the correct wiring. Post 10 I think. Don't change anything at the receptacle and just do what it says.
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Old 07-12-2012, 03:35 PM   #63
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From Post #32:
Remove the red wire from the receptacle.
Put a wirenut at each end.(of the red wire)
Tie the ORIGINAL whites together and the ORIGINAL blacks together.
Done.
(This gets the original switch eliminated and receptacle always hot
as you ere asking to do then)

For the new wire to the ceiling light...
Tap into the whites and add the new white wire.
Tap into the blacks to add a short piece of black wire.
Attach this short piece and the NEW black to the switch.
Done.
if he caps off the reds then one half of his receptacle isn't going to work as one half was switched before and the tab will be broke off. I finally got a chance to read through the whole post lol. The red needs to come off the switch and go under the wirenut with the blacks. the black to the new ceiling light goes to were the red is hooked up in the last picture. Everything else stays as is and the plug gets wired exactly as it's shown in the picture.

pretty sure someone else said to do it this way so i guess i'm just seconding that post.
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if he caps off the reds then one half of his receptacle isn't going to work as one half was switched before and the tab will be broke off.
79 cents for a new device is a good fix for that problem.
If you're real cheap you could use a jumper wire too.

I'm still not understanding the desire (or reasoning) to have the switch operate BOTH the receptacle and the ceiling light.
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I'm still not understanding the desire (or reasoning) to have the switch operate BOTH the receptacle and the ceiling light.
Does it really matter? I've done weirder stuff for clients.
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79 cents for a new device is a good fix for that problem.
If you're real cheap you could use a jumper wire too.

I'm still not understanding the desire (or reasoning) to have the switch operate BOTH the receptacle and the ceiling light.
the way i told him to wire it it won't be switched, but with the tab broke on the receptacle you need to feed both screws with an always on power line or else only one half of it's going to work. The configuration i put there is basically just feeding both sides of the plug from the incomming line. A new device could be installed or a jumper as well. Any of the three will work just fine.

It seems silly to me as well to still have it switched, i think they got him to wire it that way because the way he was told to do it so it was separate wasn't working.
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Does it really matter?
Yeah. What matters most though is whether what the OP is being told to do will actually achieve what he wants. Around post 30 he said he wanted to eliminate the device switching which makes the most sense and is most commonly the approach when a ceiling light is added.

He's had a flood of "help" that is often not so much actual help.
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the way i told him to wire it it won't be switched, but with the tab broke on the receptacle you need to feed both screws with an always on power line or else only one half of it's going to work. The configuration i put there is basically just feeding both sides of the plug from the incomming line. A new device could be installed or a jumper as well. Any of the three will work just fine.
I think many of us have correctly stated one way or another to get this scenario up and running, yet here we are at post 10,000 and still not working... LOL...
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Yeah. What matters most though is whether what the OP is being told to do will actually achieve what he wants. Around post 30 he said he wanted to eliminate the device switching which makes the most sense and is most commonly the approach when a ceiling light is added.

He's had a flood of "help" that is often not so much actual help.
He was happy with the plug not working at all, also.. I posted the correct wiring in post 11... I've done my part here.
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This is where someone is supposed to say;
"thats ok, I'll just sit in the dark"
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The three wore does not go back to your panel. It's in the receptacle box and the switch box. Should he the same wire. One of the earlier posts had the correct wiring. Post 10 I think. Don't change anything at the receptacle and just do what it says.
i knew it was somewhere near there were it was written out right.
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judging by how short the white wires are... I'd say they get wirenutted together.
The red wire is PROBABLY the switch leg.
The two blacks are PROBABLY the always hot and the feed through.

Five minutes with a good tester would tell the tale.
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Thank you all for the help. Everything is working properly now, and the post 11 was correct.
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Thank you all for the help. Everything is working properly now, and the post 11 was correct.
Woo-Hoo! Glad you got it working!
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