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Old 05-26-2006, 09:36 PM   #1
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Wiring an outlet in the garden


I was arguing with someone about this a few days ago. I am wiring an outlet out on the side of the house for the garden fountains. I am wiring in paralel to the GFI that the existing outside outlet is hooked to.


I have wired many rooms before and GFI is not a problem for me.......
but here is the kicker, I am wiring the outside outlet with a switch in a weather proof box......he seems to think that I can't wire a switch after the GFI to power the outlet, and to turn the fountains on and off he thinks this would not work for code......what you all think?

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Dont wire the switch and outlet in parallel to the gfi.
Wire them to the load terminals of the gfi.
You should be fine.

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Why on earth would he think it "would not work for code"??
Did he go into and details?

As long as it is wired correctly, as JW said, it is fine.
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Why on earth would he think it "would not work for code"??
Did he go into and details?

As long as it is wired correctly, as JW said, it is fine.
Well I am using just an ordinary outlet and switch...... He was trying to tell me I needed a GFI IN the actual outlet box outside.....I told him if wired correctly the Gfi it is connected to (in the basement in this case) IS the GFI outlet, and by having it hooked up to it "correctly" the outside outlet is GFI protected..........He thought I was wrong. I also told him that there are "outdoor" switch boxes for pools and such, and this application is no different.
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Well I am using just an ordinary outlet and switch...... He was trying to tell me I needed a GFI IN the actual outlet box outside.....I told him if wired correctly the Gfi it is connected to (in the basement in this case) IS the GFI outlet, and by having it hooked up to it "correctly" the outside outlet is GFI protected..........He thought I was wrong. I also told him that there are "outdoor" switch boxes for pools and such, and this application is no different.
The code requirement is that the outlet be GFCI protected. This can be at the panel in the form of a breaker, or any GFI device in between. Your friend is wrong. Aren't you glad you came in here and asked.
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Even worse it was my dad.......LOL


No really if it wasn't him I would have not even asked(I was sure I was right) But you know when Pa says something you start to doubt yourself. LOL


Thanks a bunch!
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Even worse it was my dad.......LOL


No really if it wasn't him I would have not even asked(I was sure I was right) But you know when Pa says something you start to doubt yourself. LOL


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That's funny, how did he suggest wiring it so that it's safe?

To prove to him that it does work, go out there barefoot and stick a key in the socket.
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That's funny, how did he suggest wiring it so that it's safe?

To prove to him that it does work, go out there barefoot and stick a key in the socket.
LOL have to get a neighbor to "test" it out for me.....

No really though the biggest thing he thought was that an actual GFI outlet had to be in the box, I was trying to explain to him that the outlet in the box is GFI protected, he was arguing that it was a regular outlet.......

I told him that if it was hooked up correctly to the circuit that is "acted
"like a GFI........


That was all.

Thaks for all your help
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Your dad has a point. Some AHJ want the test and reset buttons to be accessable. This means that If you install outlets (say for seasonal lights) and you need a ladder to plug in the lights, you should not need the ladder to reset the gfi.

I have never heard of anyone being rejected if the reset is in the panel or another device that is accessable from ground or floor level without removing a decorative door or cover.

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