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Old 05-29-2012, 04:04 PM   #16
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Then you won't be able to use that circuit, but you should be able to pull a new one from the panel. It would be even easier than using the existing circuit since you won't have to try and find enough slack in the wires to splice in the receptacle.
Other than the problems of getting the pipe off and having enough slack, why can't he use that circuit?
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Open up your existing panel, and LB, disconnect the wires in the panel, pull them out of the LB, cut off the LB carefully not to damage the existing wires, install a FS box, pull new wires from the panel to the new FS box... pretty simple IMO...
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Open up your existing panel, and LB, disconnect the wires in the panel, pull them out of the LB, cut off the LB carefully not to damage the existing wires, install a FS box, pull new wires from the panel to the new FS box... pretty simple IMO...
Yep, but then again we do it all the time. DIY forum means that many need baby steps, of course i do not always follow my own words.
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Yep, but then again we do it all the time. DIY forum means that many need baby steps, of course i do not always follow my own words.
I think the OP already did some research and is way ahead of the game, he just wanted some reassurance on his thoughts.
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I would drill a hole in the side of the LB and install a 1/2" male adapter and run a short piece of conduit to a new box for the GFCI. Might be a minor code violation (modifying a UL listed device).

You may not have enough slack in the LB to make a splice. I would make a new run back to the breaker panel.
That is pretty tacky if i do say so myself...
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That is pretty tacky if i do say so myself...
To each his own but I do not think many inspectors would red tag it.
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To each his own but I do not think many inspectors would red tag it.
I think they would.
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To each his own but I do not think many inspectors would red tag it.
I don't like using 110.12, but I think this might qualify. It's very hackish.

In addition to that, it's against code. There are situations where it is permitted to support the box with raceways, but this isn't one of them. Check out 314.23.

I also wouldn't consider that LB to be accessible anymore, but that's up for debate.
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The fitting would still be accessible. RJ is talking about adding another place to take off another conduit like out of the side.
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The fitting would still be accessible. RJ is talking about adding another place to take off another conduit like out of the side.
Yes, I am sure you are going to be happy to hear that I screwed up. I confused rj's post with curiousB's. I thought he was the one who said to install a box to the open face of the LB, doing that was what my post was in response to. Sorry guys.
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Along those lines how about a weatherproof box with the hole in the back. Remove LB cover and throw away. Drill a couple holes in back of box to line up with screw holes of LB and screw the box in as the cover to the LB (reuse the LB cover gasket). Just be sure to center the knockout in back of the box is in the middle of the LB. Then wire in GFCI in the front of the new box. Install weatherproof cover as normal. Only modification is two 3/16" holes in back of box.
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So here's my thoughts - I would really only want to replace the LB with a new box, not add on another box. What you all didn't realize is that this is on a wall that is next to a new patio, so I'm not going to add another box (either on top of, next to, or whatever). That would look tacky. It's either all or none here.

As for an inspector finding it in the first place? Highly unlikely, but true - it's possible I guess. They'd have to walk around into my back yard past my akita first. He doesn't like strangers. LOL I'm not opposed to breaking the rules, if the rules don't make sense. But sometimes, rules are rules.

After looking at it a bit more, I would have a tough time getting the LB off the conduit in the first place since it looks like there is a bit of locktite or something there too. Not easy to just take it off, which looks like it might foil the whole plan. I'm gonna look for another alternative at this point. Thanks for all the answers!
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Yes, I am sure you are going to be happy to hear that I screwed up. I confused rj's post with curiousB's. I thought he was the one who said to install a box to the open face of the LB, doing that was what my post was in response to. Sorry guys.
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