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brownmoose 08-27-2012 12:39 PM

Wiring for new washer and dryer
 
Had an old washer/dryer combo. Ran off of single 220v plug and line. Bought new washer and dryer.

Dryer takes 220v. Washer takes 110v.

I'm going to be doing a major renovation in about 2 months (rewiring everything) but can't wait that long for clean clothes. Can I piggyback a 110v out of the 220v circuit for the short-term or should I run an extension cord with the 110v from another room (probably living room)?

Otherwise I can cut holes in the ceiling to run a new line back to the breaker but that's a lot more effort for a 2 month solution.

hammerlane 08-27-2012 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by brownmoose (Post 997493)
Had an old washer/dryer combo. Ran off of single 220v plug and line. Bought new washer and dryer.

Dryer takes 220v. Washer takes 110v.

I'm going to be doing a major renovation in about 2 months (rewiring everything) but can't wait that long for clean clothes. Can I piggyback a 110v out of the 220v circuit for the short-term or should I run an extension cord with the 110v from another room (probably living room)?

Otherwise I can cut holes in the ceiling to run a new line back to the breaker but that's a lot more effort for a 2 month solution.

SO you want to splice into one of the hot legs for the dryer outlet and the neutral of the dryer outlet and connect new wire/cable to each to run to a 110V duplex outlet? Can't you use an extension cord to a nearby existing outlet for the time being for the washer??

brownmoose 08-27-2012 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by hammerlane (Post 997504)
SO you want to splice into one of the hot legs for the dryer outlet and the neutral of the dryer outlet and connect new wire/cable to each to run to a 110V duplex outlet? Can't you use an extension cord to a nearby existing outlet for the time being for the washer??

My concern is that the nearby circuits are:
Living room (only a 15 amp circuit with 14 gauge wiring)
Kitchen (already at capacity when I turn the toaster oven on).

Could try to run off of the circuit for the garbage disposal by changing switch to a switch and outlet combo but that would be pretty interesting wire run. That's why I've been thinking that tapping into the 220v would be a better solution. But it may just be that I should create a short-circuit off the box and just run an exposed extension cord from that.

hammerlane 08-27-2012 02:45 PM

Well you cannot to splice into one of the hot legs for the dryer outlet and the neutral of the dryer outlet and connect new wire/cable to each to run to a 110V duplex outlet?

Im sure there would be an issue with over-current protection. You'd have 12AWG wire protected by a 30A breaker. A no no

gregzoll 08-27-2012 02:50 PM

Also, you cannot run the appliance off of the extension cord. The wash machine requires a dedicated GFCI protected outlet, the dryer can be grandfathered on the 3 wire 240vac that is already there.

Looks like you need to get busy and pull some wire.

Jim Port 08-27-2012 03:02 PM

The washer would only require GFI protection if within 6' of a laundry tub.

notmrjohn 08-27-2012 03:35 PM

Use one leg of the 220, remembering that is TEMPORARY. Do NOT use an extension cord in any case.

kbsparky 08-27-2012 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by notmrjohn (Post 997621)
Use one leg of the 220, remembering that is TEMPORARY. Do NOT use an extension cord in any case.

Bad advice. Using a nice heavy-duty extension cord is MUCH SAFER than what you have posted.

hammerlane 08-27-2012 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by notmrjohn (Post 997621)
Use one leg of the 220, remembering that is TEMPORARY. Do NOT use an extension cord in any case.

Using 1 leg of the 220 for what you want to do is more dangerous than a heavy duty extension cord to a receptacle that has a proper overcurrent device.

Regarding the load capacity of the breaker and wiring that runs to the dryer. If one or both is undersized or oversized, you're walking into trouble if you try to use it.

hammerlane 08-27-2012 03:50 PM

kbsparky...you beat me to it by one minute on the last posts.

brownmoose 08-27-2012 04:02 PM

Thank you all for your advise.

So I think this is what I'm going to do.

Add a 10-15 amp GFI breaker to my box.
Connect 12AWG to breaker and run it outside the wall, in the corner along the ceiling to the laundry room. I'll then connect to a box and a GFI receptacle. I'll use that to power washer. Basically stringing cable but not snaking through walls to save time and because it is temporary.

I guess I should also put the cable in grey conduit if exposed too. Really wish this was as simple as "take out the old washer and put in the new one."

Thanks again for the advise.

stickboy1375 08-27-2012 04:06 PM

A washing machine draws nothing, just run it off an extension cord for the little time you need... gezz... The advice on here just pains me sometimes.

notmrjohn 08-27-2012 04:29 PM

I stand chagrined.

Speedy Petey 08-27-2012 04:48 PM

I have nothing to add. My friends here took care of this topic nicely. :thumbsup:

hammerlane 08-27-2012 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by brownmoose (Post 997650)
So I think this is what I'm going to do. Connect 12AWG to breaker and run it outside the wall, in the corner along the ceiling to the laundry room.... Basically stringing cable but not snaking through walls to save time and because it is temporary.

Whats safer stringing cable along the wall to a temp box and receptacle or using an extension cord to an existing outlet TEMPORARILY???

It is your choice. The people have spoken.


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