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Old 05-16-2010, 06:01 PM   #16
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If you have 2x10 rafters (which are typically 9 1/4") the lights needing 9" might be a very tight fit. I don't know how much easier the adjustable feature is.

IMHO can lights in a cathedral ceiling are like putting holes through your insulation no matter how well you try to insulate them.

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If you have 2x10 rafters (which are typically 9 1/4") the lights needing 9" might be a very tight fit. I don't know how much easier the adjustable feature is.

IMHO can lights in a cathedral ceiling are like putting holes through your insulation no matter how well you try to insulate them.
Your speaking from an aesthetic point of view, not a technical one? Just want to understand. Because, IMHO from a technical point they could? fit. But, aesthetically, it would be akin to someone donning a Tuxedo with Top Hat and wearing sneakers.!
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Old 05-16-2010, 08:04 PM   #18
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Thought my question was technical: whether one type recessed light was easier to install or more functional than the other, with 10" rafters a possible consideration. Haven't seen this style installed, but if you have, I'll defer to your judgment on aesthetics. Thanks.
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Old 05-16-2010, 08:56 PM   #19
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If you want functionality in a cathedral ceiling, I'd consider a quality LED lamp for the fixture. Good ones last a lot longer and will have you hauling out your ladder a lot fewer times. Cree makes some good ones.
http://www.cree.com/products/xlamp.asp
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I have some 15/20A Leviton 2-way switches with a green colored ground screw. Is it acceptable to terminate the copper ground at that screw or do you also need to run a ground up to the ceiling light fixture? If so, please explain how you would do that. THANKS
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Grounds go to the switch & the lights
Pigtail the grounds together at the switch, leaving one long to attach to the switch
Use a green wire nut w/hole in it
Or if you have a normal nut maybe drill a small hole in it

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Just to be sure here, pigtailing the ground is one method (using any color wire connector). Using the green nut screw with a hole sounds like an alternative method. Thanks for the help.
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Yes - pigtail the 2 wires to a 3rd wire, install wire nut & the 3rd wire attaches to the screw

Or just twist the 2 together with one wire longer & thru the hole in the wire nut
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If you use a different wirenut, just make a pigtail. You shouldn't drill a hole in one because it's just extra work and technically not ul listed.
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Thanks Dave and Sparky for the follow-up. Got it.
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If neither of the ground wire ends is long enough to be wire nutted to the other and also reach the green screw on the switch, then do not use the hole in the small end of a wire nut. It is very difficult, dexterity wise, to have a separate length (pigtail) coming out the small end and properly connected to the other wires inside.
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Walls are framed and covered with chip-board. Will be later covered with vinyl. Have several matching J-boxes, 6x6" square and inch or so deep. Confused about: (1) J-box has a flat flange at its base with slots. Is that to be nailed to the chip-board surface for support? (2) Do the plastic electrical boxes meet code for outdoor lighting (3) Should box be secured to a stud? (4) Are there kits with straps etc. that I need to pick up to assure proper mating of various outdoor lights with the electrical boxes? (5) Any methods that don't require a junction box? Builder is on site from time to time and would assist where possible, but I hold the electrical permit. Thanks for ideas.
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It sounds like you are dealing with the siding blocks that are available in the siding trim section. These will need an electrical box installed to contain the splice. They are not junction boxes. You nail them up. Since you have OSB you should not need to find a stud.

I prefer the siding junction boxes from Arlington. You can scan this.

http://www.arlcatalog.com/Siding/siding.pdf
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Thank you. Very helpful. Talked to builder and he will mount boxes in locations I mark.
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Mounting wall light (sconce) in new construction. Probably less than 5 lbs. Heard metal boxes better here. Should I just fasten one side of box to a wall stud, or do you need to frame it in on top and bottom? Thanks for the help.

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