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02-19-2010, 11:30 PM
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wiring info 14/2
Hi
I have a light circuit 15 amp 14gauge(7 cfl lights) ,and am going to link off of it 15ft to garage(is the only wiring close).will be putting 3 plugs,1st -GFI; and 2 cfl lights on the line.I dont plan to use any appliances /compressors,etc. Will have garage door opener1/3 hp ,and may use vaccuum ,or 13 amp saw once in a while,but not often
Do you see any problems with the set up ?
Will i be able to run the 13amp 60 hz (4500rpm no load ) saw,ok ,or small vac,even if lights are all on? I wont use the plugs together at same time even though there are only 3 on entire circuit.
Any info is appreciated.
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02-20-2010, 12:31 AM
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Electrician
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Winnipeg, Manitoba
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wiring info 14/2
How far is panel from the garage, 13A is alot to put on a #14 without worrying about voltage drop.
Could you not just run a new circuit out to the garage and have that on its own circuit, preferbly a 20A circuit.
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02-20-2010, 01:07 AM
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wiring info 14/2
Agreed - it would be much better if you can run one (or even two, while you are pulling wire) 20a circuits to the garage.
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02-20-2010, 11:06 AM
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Its about 200 or 300 ft at least to box.Will i be blowing the fuse everytime i use a jigsaw ,vac,etc-alone? All are lights at 60 cfls and there will be just 3 outlets on circuit.
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02-20-2010, 11:31 AM
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Xtreme DIY'r
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: South of Boston, MA
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wiring info 14/2
At 300' you will have a voltage drop of ~24 volts
At 200' it will be ~16v
Are the CFL's installed & in use ?
A lot of times they will not light with that great of a drop
Of course with only say 60w of power w/CFLs' the voltage drop is only 1.2-2v
So the CFL's should work OK
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02-20-2010, 09:59 PM
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I decided to go a little further and link into the outside "Gfi breaker protected" 20 amp-12/2 as my main feed for the outlets ,and just leave lights on the 15 -as i was going to run anyway.
What is the max outlets on the 20 amp ?
That circuit has 3 outlets already to bathrooms/outside plug.
I dont believe i would need a plug style gfi on any of the line since protected in breaker ,but wondered if it is ever done..
Any info is appreciated
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02-20-2010, 11:58 PM
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Xtreme DIY'r
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There isn't a max number of outlets
Max load is 20a, 2400 watts
However you can't take a feed off of a bathroom circuit
That is a code violation
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02-21-2010, 12:11 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vsheetz
Agreed - it would be much better if you can run one (or even two, while you are pulling wire) 20a circuits to the garage.
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What a lot of people (who are not DIYers or PROs) don't realize is that you could, with the same effort install 2 lines (MWBC) instead of one.  !
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02-21-2010, 12:45 AM
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E-lec-tri-city
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Austin, Texas
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wiring info 14/2
I've been re-doing my house and I am running two 12/2's into the garage, just as an affirmation of what the other posters have said. I'm a newbie at electrical work also.
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02-22-2010, 12:02 AM
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I used a different nondedicated line ,20 amp-not many outlets ,not gfi linked ...-yet.
I will run 3 outlets off it transferring 1 of them..5 on all ,Gfi 1st, will be ok for what i will be using it for.
Thanks for the info
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02-22-2010, 10:06 AM
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Xtreme DIY'r
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If you want (2) circuits out there you can pull an additional red wire
These 2 circuits become a MWBC - multi-wire branch circuit
Red & black as hots, green ground, white neutral
The hot feed must be on opposite bus on the panel
Easiest way is to use a 240v breaker to feed the hots
For a detached structure you can have:
(1) circuit
(2) circuits using a MWBC
OR
Sub panel & many circuits
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02-22-2010, 11:28 AM
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I will just go with the 20 amp for all of it -lights also-since it has almost nothing on it anyway and i wont be pulling a lot off it.20 works for me!
Ive run it already too!
Thanks for info.
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