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frankrizzo 08-26-2013 03:54 PM

Wiring help for new timer for driveway lights and a separate outlet box
 
Hi everyone,
Hoping to get some assistance on the wiring diagram to accomplish the following:

-Two new lights being installed at end of driveway and the electrical lines for both being run up to house and into box as a new circuit.

- Before entering the house, would like to install a single gang box for outlets

- Once line comes into house, install indoor timer, to control lights at end of driveway.

Just having trouble visualizing the actual wiring diagram to make the switch control the lights but not the outlet box in between the two.

Thanks!

wirenut1110 08-26-2013 04:02 PM

You could feed your timer then run a 14/3 or 12/3(whichever you're using) to the box where you want the receptacle.

The black would be a constant hot and the red would be a switched hot to continue out to your lights.

of course all neutrals and ground go together and a GFI outside but, not for the lights.

diyer111 08-27-2013 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by wirenut1110 (Post 1234511)
You could feed your timer then run a 14/3 or 12/3(whichever you're using) to the box where you want the receptacle.

The black would be a constant hot and the red would be a switched hot to continue out to your lights.

of course all neutrals and ground go together and a GFI outside but, not for the lights.

If he is adding an outlet outside it must be 12 gauge wire and be GFCI protected. Also, once the wire leaves the outlet box, it can be 12-2 wire. Just make sure it is outdoor rated wire.

wirenut1110 08-27-2013 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by diyer111 (Post 1234888)
If he is adding an outlet outside it must be 12 gauge wire


HUH?:confused1: WT:censored:

diyer111 08-27-2013 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by wirenut1110 (Post 1234901)
HUH?:confused1: WT:censored:

At least where I am from. Any outdoor outlet must be on a 20 amp 12 gauge wire in order to power any sort of outdoor power tools, trimmers, lights, etc.

Jim Port 08-27-2013 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by diyer111 (Post 1234888)
If he is adding an outlet outside it must be 12 gauge wire and be GFCI protected. Also, once the wire leaves the outlet box, it can be 12-2 wire. Just make sure it is outdoor rated wire.

This is not a NEC requirement for a 20 amp circuit.

rjniles 08-27-2013 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by diyer111 (Post 1234888)
If he is adding an outlet outside it must be 12 gauge wire and be GFCI protected. Also, once the wire leaves the outlet box, it can be 12-2 wire. Just make sure it is outdoor rated wire.

Are you making this stuff up?

If it is fact a local amendment (which I doubt) don't quote it as code.

diyer111 08-27-2013 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by rjniles (Post 1235005)
Are you making this stuff up?

If it is fact a local amendment (which I doubt) don't quote it as code.

I am not trying to make this up, it is something I saw elsewhere in this forum

Oso954 08-27-2013 05:42 PM

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At least where I am from. Any outdoor outlet must be on a 20 amp 12 gauge wire
Quote:

I am not trying to make this up, it is something I saw elsewhere in this forum
Which one of those is true ???

circuitman 08-28-2013 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by wirenut1110 (Post 1234901)
HUH?:confused1: WT:censored:

i'm with you on this one, why 12 gauge? could be voltage drop.:eek:


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