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Old 02-26-2012, 01:31 PM   #46
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Don't know the answers, But I have heard that in Chicago the code requires that all wiring including wiring inside walls, be run in conduit. Are you within the same jurisdiction as Chicago for building codes? It makes no sense at all as Romex has been proven for over 80 years. If it was a hazard, we'd have found out about it by now. I have heard that this is a union thing, ie; the only reason it's there is to provide extra (unnecessary ) work for the electricians union.

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Okay, here's an update. The electrician "oh, Mike" recommended gave me a verbal quote (site unseen but with some details) and said the job should cost about $550. Problem is that South Elgin has rather strict requirements and he would have to take their exam in order to do work here. This is bogus!

Still trying to resolve this issue and Mike's contact is willing to help but I fear I need to find some one who is reputable, fair and can work in this crazy town.

I'd pay for him to take the exam and all but timing is an issue with the closing sheduled the end of March.

TBD.
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Ummm, I think $550 is a way lower then the quote that the buyer's electrician quoted ($3300).
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Did they talk of any concessions drastically less than the insane $3300?
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Not sure what you mean by "concessions" sorry. Mike's contact can't really come out to look until Saturday. He doesn't think it's a difficult job. I sent him the south elgin updated pdf file regarding codes and a photo of the fuse box and explain that it's only a partial basement with 6 cam lights and two wall switch outlets. One outlet next to the fuse box (with wood panel around it. The second swich in drywall on a wall between the finished part and the work shop (with the romex in above the ceiling tiles and then through and through a hole in to the workshop to the box that holds the switch to one cam light.

At least this verifies my fear that I was being taken for a ride.
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I mean did they (buyers) offer a lower price, but not $3300 lower?
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Speedy, I'm not dealing with them yet until I can get more details for a specific response to them as I don't want to lose this deal.

I'm thinking that in order to do that I want to have a firm quote in writing that I can submit or have the work done (hell, I want it fixed anyway now that I know it's an issue).

I still have yet to receive the inspection report. Because this came down on Friday, Attorneys "are working on it". I feel that I need to submit a bonified quote as backing to any thing I reject. The only other items that the inspection report stated (per their attorney) was that one ignition on my stove stop didn't light (yes, a fact) and that my microwave oven (a spacemaker by GE) makes a grinding noise.

But, I fear if I don't give them $3300 they can simply walk away from the contract unless I can prove I can fix the basement issue or provide a quote or 3 that illustrates what the true cost would be.
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So, tell them that you will take the stove and microwave with you. Unless you have to pay to bail out of the deal, and from the sounds of it, you may have to at this point, to regroup and get the "house" in order. At least with the inspection, you know what needs to be done, so that when it is fixed, you can get it back up on the market as quick as possible.

I know that it is right now a hard market, but there are others out there that if this couple does not buy, the other might. You really do not think about these things, until you do get the house on the market, then the can of worms comes open, and you at least at that point know what needs to be done, but in turn causes headaches, so that you can move on with your life.

I know that if we ever put our house on the market right now, buyers would gripe about the junction boxes in the basement, due to electrical retro in our antique home, and that there is a lolly column that needs to be replaced, and a corner of the house has sunk, to cause problems. Other than that, I could hear the buyer stating that the siding is old and needs replaced, the back door needs to be replaced, hate the paint color, they want the old wood floors refinished.

I would rather bulldoze my home, or live in it until I die, than deal with 21st Century buyers. They are way too spoiled, unless you get lucky.
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My guess was about $600---a bit more if any of the can lights are defective--

Which one did you contact? The one I said had done the Geneva job--or the fellow from Glen Ellyn?

One thing worth mentioning---it may be possible to pull wires from the breaker box into a ceiling junction box,using one of the existing conduits.
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Greg, I need to move on. This house way to big for a single person and it's time to unload it. It's a beautiful home but due to the current market it lost over $100,000 in value since 2008. The market sucks here. I built it and love it but it's time to let go.

$3300 might not seem much to some people but to me, at my present state, it's a lot. This is my second deal on this home and I just want out but I don't want to be ripped off either given the amount I'm already losing on it.

Okay, enough venting! We'll see what happens in the upcoming week. I feel like this is a blog for a home sellers trials and tribulations.

Plus I finished my realestate brokers classes (yet to take the state exam)... this is an interesting learning experience.
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At least when you go to sell for others, you have a good resource to ask questions, and know from what you have gone through, what others should not. As for the market, I would not go by what the Illinois Realtors association has stated, due to it was found out within the past year, that they have been fudging with the market numbers, and value of homes.

At least here, we can understand what you are going through, and it is a good place to vent, as long as you let everyone know ahead of time, that you are going to pull punches.
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The building department requires a test for an electrician that is already licensed?

When you do move---stay out of South Elgin---
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Mike, I emailed Ron the pdf file I downloaded off off the S. Elgin website. He's trying to decifer it all - it's stingent. He said he'd have to take their exam. Which would cost about $600. Plus waiting for the results and thepermit etc. he might not be able to do in time. But, because of YOU he's trying to help me out. Not sure yet what next steps are. Stay tuned. His schedule is buy this week and can't come out to view the job until Saturday but that might be a mute point now. I like him though and would like to work with him.
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hope you can read my previous post despite my typos!
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He's a good guy--one of the best---knows his stuff and is honest and ...well,I consider him a friend.

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