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basil53 02-24-2012 07:08 PM

Wiring code for South Elgin, Illinois
 
What year was romex wiring disallowed in South Elgin, Illinois?

basil53 02-24-2012 07:11 PM

electrical question regarding romex
 
Does anyone know when romex was disallowed in South Elgin, Illinois? Was it's use ever allowed?

Speedy Petey 02-24-2012 07:18 PM

What year did Mrs. O'Leary's cow kick over the lantern?

basil53 02-24-2012 07:23 PM

I'd like an answer if possible. I'm female and not an electrician. just want a simple answer please

LooseSCruz 02-24-2012 09:50 PM

Who told you romex wasn't allowed? Have you confirmed this with the city? I'm sure if you call the building department or planning department or whatever they call the agency that issues permits and manages inspections in your city, they can quickly give you an answer.

oh'mike 02-24-2012 10:04 PM

Kane County allows Romex in the county---Geneva allows Romex in the city--South Elgin

Heaven only knows--South Elgin has anexed in a lot of land in the last 20 years--

Are they giving you a hard time for having Romex? See if you were anexed into South Elgin--

Those people in the building department are--difficult--(that's a nice word) --very difficult--Mike--

They have codes available on line from the building department--

gregzoll 02-24-2012 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by basil53 (Post 862353)
I'd like an answer if possible. I'm female and not an electrician. just want a simple answer please

Okay. How much wood can a Wood Chuck chuck, if a Wood Chuck could chuck wood? Or another one. What is the meaning of life?

basil53 02-25-2012 12:21 AM

Thanks all who tried to give me an intelligent answer. Here's the deal: My home is on the market. Back in 2002 the basement was finished and the cam type lights in the suspended ceiling have romex wiring. During the home inspection it was suggested that an electrican look at the wiring/unsafe wiring for said lights. The buyers brought in an electrician who wants $3300 (me to give buyers) to update wiring. I researched the building codes and found that romex (or non-metalic shethed cable) is not allowed. The code was amended in April of 2009.

What I really want to know is are they trying to rip me off and get me to pay for upgrading. And, in 2002 when the work was done was it okay to use romex back then.

Just need some advice. Thanks all. :wink:

joecaption 02-25-2012 01:18 AM

Sure sounds like a rip off to me.
There still is no conduit required in my area except on commercial work.
Still makes 0 since t me why it's needed at all in homes.

oh'mike 02-25-2012 06:43 AM

I wish I had an answer---call a local electrician ---they will know ---if it was code when built --not a problem.

Try to find an old timer --South Elgin has had a lot of changes in the last 20 years.

Speedy Petey 02-25-2012 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by joecaption (Post 862581)
Sure sounds like a rip off to me.
There still is no conduit required in my area except on commercial work.
Still makes 0 since t me why it's needed at all in homes.

You're in Va, she's in Chicagoland. BIG difference.

Speedy Petey 02-25-2012 07:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by basil53 (Post 862353)
I'd like an answer if possible. I'm female and not an electrician. just want a simple answer please

What does being female have to do with it?

Sorry if my answer was humorous instead of intelligent, but only someone familiar with your exact area will know this. Your local building dept will be your best bet for an accurate answer. It seems as if you did this and have your accurate answer, so at this point I'm not sure what info you are looking for.

I can tell you one thing, NM cable is NOT "unsafe". It was just not code allowed in your area at the time. Unfortunate for you, and unfortunate that your area has some stupid rules regarding home wiring.

If this is going to hold up the sale for your I would have your own guy do the work as cheaply as possible and to the letter of what is being asked for, not ONE thing more. From what I hear, guys in Chicagoland can pipe like no ones business. $3300 sounds pretty steep to re-wire some can lights.

oh'mike 02-25-2012 08:13 AM

Do check the local codes---and see a local electrician,an old timer that will know when changes aoccured in the code---

basil53 02-25-2012 09:45 AM

I'm on the hunt for a local old timer type electrician. Hopefully, I can find a decent one or this contract on the home will fall through. Tired of getting ripped off when it's bad enough I'm taking a huge hit on the house anyway and being laid off doesn't help matters. Speedy, the cow kicked the lantern over in 1871 (factoid for ya).

Yes, the

This is the guy's quote to the buyer:
Rewire ceilina lights and switches existino was done with Romex
200' ½” emt conduit
24 ½” drive nails
38 ½” emt couplings
18 ½” emt connectors
8 1900 boxes
8 1900 blanks
16 screws
18’ 3/8” greenfield
12 3/8” greenfield conn
900’ #14 thhn wire
20 yellow wire nuts
“Very time consuming with the 2' x 2' ceiling grid, will need to piece together
Conduit, t would also include some money for the carpentry work next to panel
To be able to work on the 2 gong switch
EXCLUSIONS: Permits; Inspection Fees; Premium time, Control Wiring, Pitch Pots
lVe Propose Hereby to furnish material and labor - complete in accordance with above
specifications for the sum of: THIRW - THREE HUNDRED AND N0/----DOLLARS
$ 3,300.00”
I don't know but the materials can cost much at all. This guy is charging an awful lot for labor claiming he has to piece together conduit under the 2'x2' ceiling panels!
And, yes, Mike, the people in the building department are more than difficult.

gregzoll 02-25-2012 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joecaption (Post 862581)
Sure sounds like a rip off to me.
There still is no conduit required in my area except on commercial work.
Still makes 0 since t me why it's needed at all in homes.

Was the work done prior to 2009? If it was, it is grandfathered under the codes for that time. I would tell them to take a hike, and follow up with the permit office. As long as you pulled permits, it passed inspection at the time that the work was done, you have nothing to worry about.

Now, on the other hand, if you did not pull permits, it was not inspected, yes it has to be brought up to current codes. That could mean that fines could be pulled also, and a lean placed on the property, until it is compliant.


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