Who told you romex wasn't allowed? Have you confirmed this with the city? I'm sure if you call the building department or planning department or whatever they call the agency that issues permits and manages inspections in your city, they can quickly give you an answer.
Thanks all who tried to give me an intelligent answer. Here's the deal: My home is on the market. Back in 2002 the basement was finished and the cam type lights in the suspended ceiling have romex wiring. During the home inspection it was suggested that an electrican look at the wiring/unsafe wiring for said lights. The buyers brought in an electrician who wants $3300 (me to give buyers) to update wiring. I researched the building codes and found that romex (or non-metalic shethed cable) is not allowed. The code was amended in April of 2009.
What I really want to know is are they trying to rip me off and get me to pay for upgrading. And, in 2002 when the work was done was it okay to use romex back then.
Sure sounds like a rip off to me.
There still is no conduit required in my area except on commercial work.
Still makes 0 since t me why it's needed at all in homes.
Sure sounds like a rip off to me. There still is no conduit required in my area except on commercial work.
Still makes 0 since t me why it's needed at all in homes.
I'm on the hunt for a local old timer type electrician. Hopefully, I can find a decent one or this contract on the home will fall through. Tired of getting ripped off when it's bad enough I'm taking a huge hit on the house anyway and being laid off doesn't help matters. Speedy, the cow kicked the lantern over in 1871 (factoid for ya).
Yes, the
This is the guy's quote to the buyer:
Rewire ceilina lights and switches existino was done with Romex
200' ½” emt conduit
24 ½” drive nails
38 ½” emt couplings
18 ½” emt connectors
8 1900 boxes
8 1900 blanks
16 screws
18’ 3/8” greenfield
12 3/8” greenfield conn
900’ #14 thhn wire
20 yellow wire nuts
“Very time consuming with the 2' x 2' ceiling grid, will need to piece together
Conduit, t would also include some money for the carpentry work next to panel
To be able to work on the 2 gong switch
EXCLUSIONS: Permits; Inspection Fees; Premium time, Control Wiring, Pitch Pots
lVe Propose Hereby to furnish material and labor - complete in accordance with above
specifications for the sum of: THIRW - THREE HUNDRED AND N0/----DOLLARS
$ 3,300.00”
I don't know but the materials can cost much at all. This guy is charging an awful lot for labor claiming he has to piece together conduit under the 2'x2' ceiling panels!
And, yes, Mike, the people in the building department are more than difficult.
Since my "ex" did the work, I'll probably have permit issues! He was anal about his work but goofed this one up big time. Thanks, Gregzoll for the answer. Yes, the work was done in 2002 but it appears I'll still have issuses.
I need to get my posts up to 20 so Mike can help me out with a local contact. So post aways folks.
Since my "ex" did the work, I'll probably have permit issues! He was anal about his work but goofed this one up big time. Thanks, Gregzoll for the answer. Yes, the work was done in 2002 but it appears I'll still have issuses.
I don't know but the materials can cost much at all. This guy is charging an awful lot for labor claiming he has to piece together conduit under the 2'x2' ceiling panels!
And, yes, Mike, the people in the building department are more than difficult.
Dierte: I don't mind people making a profit but he uses words in his quote that lead me suspect his quote like, "ask for more money for carpentry work"....
Existing installation work is typically only required to comply with the Code in force at the time of original installation. Just because it does not comply with current Code does not mean it has to be changed. South Elgin could have other issues.
The price and details sound fishy and like a scam to get money out of you. As others have stated your only definitive answers will come from the SE building department or an electrician that regularly works in SE and pulls permits for that work.
You should also consider having your own electrician assess conditions as a rebuttal.
Start asking in the various forums, or responding to topics of subjects you know that can help others, such as the off topic forum. We can get your post count up there.
In today's market, the buyers want everything and due to the glut of homes out there they can get it. Unfortuneatly, my ex didn't do what he should have done and he was union so he should have known better.
Don't forget that this can be a negotiated item. You don't have to do anything, a partial credit etc, but may not sell either. The buyers need to remember they are buying a used house. It will not have all the same features as a new custom built house. They should not expect airbags in a 72 Pinto.
I don't know if the NM was ever a legal wiring method in your area, so the problem could have existed from day one.
Dierte, normally I'd have the same exact attitude as you, but on this one? Come on!
That dude's quote would be mine, IF the job took a FULL week for me alone. Almost three full days with a qualified additional guy.
If a guy in Chi can't re-wire 20-something can lights in two days he is an amateur with no pipe bending skills.
Jim--this area is a mess---what I can do in the county is different than what my next door neighbor can do in the village---Many electricians around here only use conduit ,even where NM is allowed--
My house is all conduit--and NM is allowed--I doubt if I live 2 miles from this member.
My job for today washed out---so I might run over to her house and take a peek,if she is interested--I need to go shopping anyway---
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