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mcherno925 10-21-2010 07:49 PM

Wiring for ceiling fan/light with dual switch at end
 
I have just installed a new ceiling fan/light fixture in a bedroom. The power source is going to the fan first and then the switch, with is a dual switch. The wiring diagram with the switch is confusing me and I think it may only apply to a layout where power goes through switch first. Can someone help me figure out what should connect to what?

14/2 power runs to fan box
14/3 runs from fan to switch

The fan has white, black, black/white, and ground
The switch has white, black, red (light), blue (fan), and ground

Thanks in advance!

Jim Port 10-21-2010 09:03 PM

The power in black will splice to the white in the B/R/W cable and will supply the power to the switch. The black and red will be the switch controlled hots that will splice to the fan and light wire from the fan, one to each.

The fan white will splice to the white from the power in cable.

All grounds together.

The power feed to the switches will need to be re-identified with black or red tape or magic marker as a hot conductor.

secutanudu 10-21-2010 10:39 PM

It looks like his switch requires a neutral....wouldn't he need a 4th conductor between the switch and fan to make that work?

oleguy74 10-21-2010 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by secutanudu (Post 521007)
It looks like his switch requires a neutral....wouldn't he need a 4th conductor between the switch and fan to make that work?

you don't sw neutrals.the neutral is already there on the 14-2 blk,white,ground.read jim ports post again.

jbfan 10-21-2010 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by oleguy74 (Post 521020)
you don't sw neutrals.the neutral is already there on the 14-2 blk,white,ground.read jim ports post again.

The switch looks like it my require a neutral.
The op stated that the wires on the switch were, white, black, red, blue and a ground.

frenchelectrican 10-21-2010 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by secutanudu (Post 521007)
It looks like his switch requires a neutral....wouldn't he need a 4th conductor between the switch and fan to make that work?

Not with convetnal switches it is not a issue and this is a switch loop format but this one have double switch loop so you are using the 14-3 for this one as Jim mention remarked white conductor then ya good to go.

{ Side note just give you a head up any states that adopted the 2011 NEC code cycle you have to put a netural conductor at all switch box locations ( In France it allready in effect with it )}

Merci.
Marc

sirsparksalot 10-21-2010 11:24 PM

I assume the OP is referring to a 3-way switch when he says "dual switch", otherwise, I see an unconnected red wire in the switch box?? :huh:

jbfan 10-21-2010 11:24 PM

Marc. Look at the op and see where it states the switch has a white, black, red and blue wire.

Until the op returns and give a model of the switch, we can only speculate!

frenchelectrican 10-21-2010 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by jbfan (Post 521041)
Marc. Look at the op and see where it states the switch has a white, black, red and blue wire.

Until the op returns and give a model of the switch, we can only speculate!

Thanks for bringing it up to me due I just got up not too long ago.

Yeah that got me a puzzle on this one unless someone can find the 14-2-2 or 14-4 NM cable then it will be a brezze.

But the way the OP mention switch I have a feeling that may have either timer or remote contoller in there.

Merci.
Marc

oleguy74 10-22-2010 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by sirsparksalot (Post 521040)
I assume the OP is referring to a 3-way switch when he says "dual switch", otherwise, I see an unconnected red wire in the switch box?? :huh:

there are two switchs.one for fan,one for light.

secutanudu 10-22-2010 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by oleguy74 (Post 521065)
there are two switchs.one for fan,one for light.

And he mentioned 4 connectors on the switch. This means it probably requires a neutral.

oleguy74 10-22-2010 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by secutanudu (Post 521134)
And he mentioned 4 connectors on the switch. This means it probably requires a neutral.

the neutral is already at the fan box.also the poster needs clarify..14-3.if his 14-3 has a blue wire,he must be in canada.in the usa we don't use that.a 14-3 has red,black,white,grnd.the blue wire should be in the fan box from fan.

mcherno925 10-22-2010 10:35 AM

I can't find the exact switch online, but it is diagrammed in this post:
http://www.diychatroom.com/f18/wirin...ling-fan-3464/

The switch is wired an dlooks just like that one. The difference is my power is going through the fan first, so I wasn't able follow this schematic.

Thanks again!

mcherno925 10-22-2010 10:41 AM

CHUTE! Sorry, my OP was incorrect which may have caused the confusion -- there is no white wire in the switch, just red blue black and ground. Given that, will the first reply work?

sirsparksalot 10-22-2010 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcherno925 (Post 520919)
I have just installed a new ceiling fan/light fixture in a bedroom. The power source is going to the fan first and then the switch, with is a dual switch. The wiring diagram with the switch is confusing me and I think it may only apply to a layout where power goes through switch first. Can someone help me figure out what should connect to what?

14/2 power runs to fan box
14/3 runs from fan to switch

The fan has white, black, black/white, and ground
The switch has white, black, red (light), blue (fan), and ground

Thanks in advance!

First, are you in the US or Canada? We don't use a blue wire in cable in the US/ for example, in 12-3 w/g, we have Black, White, Red and Bare ground.

Are you also giving us the colors of the wires that are actually attached to the fan motor and light (there should be stranded Black, Blue White and ground)? I think it's easier if you tell us how many, and what colors you have going into the fan BOX (from the power source), and how many and what color are going from the fan box to the switch.


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