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Old 12-21-2008, 02:58 AM   #1
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Can I put a bathroom Gfci receptacle at the end of a bedroom receptacles 20 amp ckt. and it be code? Also can i put the bath fan/light on a bedroom light 20 amp ckt. and it be legal? FYI these are 2 separate ckts.

While I'm at it, can i put a Kitchen Gfci at the end of a bedroom 20 amp receptacle ckt.?

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Old 12-21-2008, 03:28 AM   #2
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Bathrooms are supposed to be dedicated. Hair dryers/curlers/etc are high draw.

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Code says that they must be dedicated, The fan and light in the bathroom CAN run off of the bath ckt.
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Just to clarify, the bathroom receptacle legally needs to be on its own circuit. The lights can be on the bedroom lighting circuit however. You could put the kitchen receptacle on the bedroom circuit, as long as the receptacle doesn't serve the kitchen countertop. Countertop receptacles need to be dedicated, and there must be at least two circuits.
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Hey InPhase 227
I called it a kitchen.... it's actually a bar in the basement. Do I need 2 separate ckts.?

Also, the bathroom? okay the lights can be on the bedroom ckt. how bout the fan? same same??

If I post my drawing can someone take a look to see if my wiring is suffice for code (in there oppinion)?

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Does it have a sink? A kitchen is defined a area with a sink and permanent facilities for food preparation and cooking.
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With a sink only it is a bar. With food prep appliances it becomes a kitchen, and two circuits for countertop receptacles are requried, GFCI protected, and spaced according to code. If only a bar, no receptacle spacing requirements apply, but any receptacle within 6' of the sink must be GFCI protected.

As for the bathroom, the GFCI receptacle does not have to be on a dedicated circuit if that bathroom is the only part of the home the circuit serves. The lights, fan, and GFCI receptacle can be combined on the same circuit, but that circuit can only feed that bathroom. Reference section E3603.4(exception) of the International Residential Code, 210.11(c)(3) of the NEC.
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With a sink only it is a bar. With food prep appliances it becomes a kitchen

What are food prep appliances? Does this just mean a regular range? Would a "bar area" with a pizza oven, fridge, and microwave be considered a kitchen?

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What are food prep appliances? Does this just mean a regular range? Would a "bar area" with a pizza oven, fridge, and microwave be considered a kitchen?

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If you have that much crap, you'd want to follow the code for a kitchen anyway, even if it's not required.
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What are food prep appliances? Does this just mean a regular range? Would a "bar area" with a pizza oven, fridge, and microwave be considered a kitchen?

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Yes, a pizza oven or a microwave is a cooking appliance, if the area is to be used for the preparation of food the code considers it a kitchen. The code isn't specific as to what food prep appliances are, but stoves, cooktops, ovens, warmers, and microwaves would top the list for most inspectors. A fridge is common in bar areas and wouldn't trigger me to consider it a kitchen, nor would a dishwasher, insinkerator, or trash compactor.
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Can I put a bathroom Gfci receptacle at the end of a bedroom receptacles 20 amp ckt. and it be code?
Is this receptacle "THE" bathroom receptacle or an additional receptacle in the bathroom? If it is simply an additional receptacle, the answer is yes.

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Also can i put the bath fan/light on a bedroom light 20 amp ckt. and it be legal? FYI these are 2 separate ckts.
Yes.

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While I'm at it, can i put a Kitchen Gfci at the end of a bedroom 20 amp receptacle ckt.?
Is this receptacle in addition to the required small appliance circuits? If so, the answer is yes.

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