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rtoni 09-16-2008 01:23 PM

wires under or beside a crawl running board?
 
from what I understand the code (CEC, NEC) requires a runner in an unfinished basement or crawlspace (if one does not want to drill the joists) to protect cables. In my crawlspace there's a 2x6 running board (which I had in place to add a bit of lateral joist support) so I decide to take advantage - any cables that I had to run in the crawl and across the joists are stapled to this board. There are only a few runs in the crawl - subpanel cable, sump circuit, crawl lights / plugs, and a well pump / tank. Where there are only smaller cables, all the runs are tacked up under the runner. Where my heavy sub panel cable runs across the joists as well, I used metal clamps to support it to the underside of the runner, and stapled a couple of the smaller (14/2) cables to the side of the runner - just to make sure there was lots of room for the subpanel feed and clamps. In the end everything is stapled / clamped to the runner and I think I did ok from a neatness point of view - did not cheap out on staples - no sags anywhere, etc. Then I see a fact sheet on the electrical safety site (Ontario, Canada) that shows the cables stapled directly to the bottom of the joists, with a runner nailed along side (instead of wire stapled up to the underside of the runner). I could see this approach in an attic where I might drop something on the top of the runner and damage a cable, but on the underside of joists the only thing that's ever going to hit the runner and these wires is my thick skull.

In any case, I get the impression that I'm ok with the way I did this, as long as the cables are "protected", but I'm just wondering what the pro's would say - does it matter if cables run under vs. alongside the runner in a crawl - or am I worrying over nothing here (and wasting your time - sorry...)?

thanks for your time and any sanity checks

-randy

220/221 09-16-2008 02:51 PM

I didn't read everything but IMO, you are worrying about nothing.


And........learn to summerize :thumbsup:

rtoni 09-16-2008 04:06 PM

gotcha (i guess i do tend to ramble on - old dogs and new tricks, and all that...)

thanks for the feedback

220/221 09-16-2008 04:30 PM

Quote:

And........learn to summerize

Yeah....when you learn to spell :whistling2:

Wildie 09-16-2008 07:07 PM

I live in Ontario also! The way you ran your cable should be fine!
The idea is to prevent damage from some lateral force.
Although, your runs are in a crawl space and unlikely to be snagged, the rule applies for areas that may be used as store rooms etc. also! In this case, it would be important.
I read all your post with interest as I had to run cables at my cottage, in the crawl space.
Don't worry about taking up anybody's time, as most here, have nothing better to do after washing up the breakfast dishes! :laughing:

rtoni 09-17-2008 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Wildie (Post 158722)
Don't worry about taking up anybody's time, as most here, have nothing better to do after washing up the breakfast dishes! :laughing:

Wildie and 220 - thanks for the laughs - and the feedback.

Sure would be nice if a few of the "old-timers" and others with lots of time of their hands lived on my road... :wink:

Wildie 09-17-2008 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by rtoni (Post 158858)
Wildie and 220 - thanks for the laughs - and the feedback.

Sure would be nice if a few of the "old-timers" and others with lots of time of their hands lived on my road... :wink:

Well, if you live on the road to hell and damnation, we'll probably be along soon! :laughing:

rtoni 09-17-2008 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Wildie (Post 158926)
Well, if you live on the road to hell and damnation, we'll probably be along soon! :laughing:

I think I do - just haven't figured it out yet

if so, welcome to the neighborhood...:)


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