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Old 01-23-2009, 12:52 PM   #16
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Try a coat hanger with a hook on the end; spin this sucker in an electric drill and it will snag any other wire in the vicinity that was fished in from the other end.
But you have to have overlap, so mark your wires so you know when you have a foot or so overlap.

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Old 01-23-2009, 01:49 PM   #17
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Just cut/patch the drywall. It's not that difficult.

You could screw around for an hour finding the hole with your fish and hooking it with another fish....or you could cut and patch.
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Old 01-23-2009, 01:56 PM   #18
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Just cut/patch the drywall. It's not that difficult.

You could screw around for an hour finding the hole with your fish and hooking it with another fish....or you could cut and patch.
Somebody makes 18# sacks of drywall compound that cure in 20 minutes. Figure on doing several layers, wet-sanding in-between with special sponges made for this purpose.

If you notch studs to pass the Romex don't forget to use nailing plates.
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Jamie, If I understand you right you can't reach the hole in the top plate because of the roof in the attic? If this is the case here is a link to a 15' fiberglass pull rod from home depot, I'm from appleton and have seen them at our local home depot. You should be able to push them up threw the top plate and then use the roof sheeting to curve them over so you can reach them. The other suggestion that might work would be to run a stick of 1/2" conduit threw the wall and use the conduit to guide your fiberglass fish tape threw the conduit and into the attic and you should be able to feed your fish tape in the attic till you can reach it.
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Jamie, If I understand you right you can't reach the hole in the top plate because of the roof in the attic? If this is the case here is a link to a 15' fiberglass pull rod from home depot, I'm from appleton and have seen them at our local home depot. You should be able to push them up threw the top plate and then use the roof sheeting to curve them over so you can reach them. The other suggestion that might work would be to run a stick of 1/2" conduit threw the wall and use the conduit to guide your fiberglass fish tape threw the conduit and into the attic and you should be able to feed your fish tape in the attic till you can reach it.
These push/pull sticks were made for suspended ceiling work, but we use them all the time for pulling wire also. But how can you guide that into a hole in the plate from a wall cutout while guiding it through insulation. And how do you get a piece of EMT into a wall? Just having a hard time picture this. Did you ever do this?
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Sorry I never posted the link before, http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/wcs/...00003+10164006Guess I still don't know if he is fishing from the basement to the attic or from a light switch to the attic. If it is from the basement I have used a 3/4 flex bit with extension to drill from the basement threw the top plate and the used a stick of 1/2" conduit threw the holes and then used my fish tape pushed threw the conduit and once it reaches the attic it follows the roof sheeting till I can reach it. If it is from a light switch I have used the fiberglass rods in the above link to go in threw the switch hole, then threw the top plate and then follow the roof sheeting till I could reach it.

http://www.greenlee.com/cat_docs/Fishing08_lowrez.pdf This is a link to the green lee site pull rods and accessories. They make a couple of tips that screw on the ends like the hook and whisk tips that can grab the wires.
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Well this room I am speaking of is a second floor room, with a finished kitchen below. I have Fish Stix, and the Glow Sticks, that Greenlee makes that they sell at Home Depot. The room is rather large, so If I have to cut drywall and fish go through the studs, it's going to be something like 50 ln feet of drywall to repair.

I had to take a sawzall to the kitchen ceiling today. (it's pretty amazing how my mom isn't shocked anymore when she comes home from work to find parts of her home knocked to pieces) So I make just chop up enough of the kitchen ceiling to fish wires down from that upstairs room to the kitchen, or I make give the attic a try with some of the tips suggested.

Thanks for all of the ideas. I did manage to fish the bathroom today with any damage to the bathroom, but had to open the kitchen ceiling to help with the bathroom, which had to be done for the kitchen anyway.

I have to be creative and do my best with fishing or my dad is going to be patching and painting for months (plus it is hard to match some of the plaster textures).

3000sqft + basement is a HUGE rewire job, especially when we are working to preserve original wood work and plaster from 1913. We have made alot of progress, but it is still daunting as to the amount of work left.

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Jamie, If I understand you right you can't reach the hole in the top plate because of the roof in the attic? If this is the case here is a link to a 15' fiberglass pull rod from home depot, I'm from appleton and have seen them at our local home depot. You should be able to push them up threw the top plate and then use the roof sheeting to curve them over so you can reach them. The other suggestion that might work would be to run a stick of 1/2" conduit threw the wall and use the conduit to guide your fiberglass fish tape threw the conduit and into the attic and you should be able to feed your fish tape in the attic till you can reach it.
Yep, I have those sticks from home depot, the space is so tight, I don't know if I am going to manage it with any tools short of a sawzall.

I will likely get into some more attic work tomorrow. We ran EMT up to the attic and put a big Jbox on it. The attic has Bats! Despite years of attempting to bat proof the attic. My dad is going to clean up the attic some more before we work up there, it's pretty gross from all the bats.

No soffit access, arts and craft style home. I'll have to take some photos and post them, then you will have a much better idea of the challenges we are facing.

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Hi, new here, is it ok to ask a related question?
Well the HD link to fiberglass fish stick no longer works but the other link to the catalog does, but a catalog with no prices is strange.

I need to fish from the upper attic to the lower attic in my house, really one attic but it pinches down to about 6" and that's my problem. I can probably reach the pinch from the upper attic, but from there it is about 25 feet to the opening to the lower attic. The ceiling under the attic from the pinch on down is approximately 45 degrees down from horizontal. The ceiling under the upper attic is horizontal.

1. Fish guns are too expensive.
2. I have thought of a sling shot and
3. bow and arrow but I would not have enough control thru a 6" pinch. 4. My final thought was to attach a string to a kid's ball and try to bounce it down the slope, but the slope is very heavily insulated with blown in stuff, quite lumpy.

So I have been searching this site: Are the fish stix flexible enough to put up the attic access and bend enough for the very low roof? Do you think this would work? It says they will bend in 6+ inches but it needs to bend by itself as I cannot get my hands on both sides of the bend. If bends too easily it will impale itself into the insulation.
Any idea of where to find one where I could touch before I buy?
Any ideas of anything which will help?

I wish to run tv cable now and I would permanently attach something like an old fashioned circular clothesline so I never have to go thru this again. Might need it for pulling more insulation, furnace ductwork, telephone, computer, and electric lines at some future time.
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tie a string to a cat and call the cat from the other end. I used this many times with my Ferret.
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Wow this is an old thread that just popped up in my email! Here is a link to the home depot fish sticks since the old one doesn't work anymore http://www.homedepot.com/Electrical-...atalogId=10053

Harbor freight even sells a set now. You could go to either of them to see the sticks before you buy, and I'm sure lowes has some also or any store that sells electrical tools should have some. From you picture I would say they would work for you.

You can run a "pull string" when you do this so there will always be a line to pull new runs from.
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I'll check out harbor freight for the sticks. I'll be about a mile from them. Maybe find my infrared temp detector there too.

Pull string-absolutely, once is enough for this task.

I don't have the cats anymore but yes that would have worked. Unless they decided they liked it up there.

I thought of one more way. Roll freezer paper the opposite way and let 'er loose at the top, it will want to unroll and it will want it to unroll fast so the insulation should not be a problem, it would jump right over the lumps.

thanks for the ideas.
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