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tommy281 10-31-2009 08:35 PM

wire ceiling fan to outlet switch((help))

Im wiring a ceiling fan to a switch by the door that also powers an outlet.

existing wires are as follows-
at swith- black wire, white wire and ground-
at outlet- black wire, white wire, white wire and ground. the outlet is cold until the switch is turned on. it looks as though the outlet has 3 sets of 14/3 going inside. black on the bottom brass screw. what wire top and bottom(not the brass)



joed 10-31-2009 08:59 PM

The only way you can tap into that switch for the fan is if you make the receptacle always on or pull a new cable to the switch.
You could tap into the receptacle for the fan.
Are you wanting the switch to control the fan?

tommy281 10-31-2009 09:15 PM

Thanks joed.

I ran 14/3 from the fan to the switch already. id like the switch to turn the fan and light thats on the fan on. i dont need seperate operation of the light and the fan.
im looking forthe easiest way to accomplish this ;)

kbsparky 10-31-2009 10:48 PM

You will have to rewire the outlet so the existing switch leg becomes a feed to the switch.

Connect all the blacks together in one wire-nut, and all the whites together in another wire-nut at the outlet box. You can use a short pigtail from each wire nut to supply power for the receptacle. The outlet will now be on at all times.

At the switch, the black wire from the outlet is now your hot feed. Connect that to your switch for the fan. The white wire from the outlet is now your neutral feed. Wire-nut that to the white wire that goes up to the fan.

Connect the remaining wire to the other switch terminal, and it will now control the fan.

hayewe farm 10-31-2009 11:08 PM

Just a guess but I would say what you have is

In which case you would disconnect the white from the switch, disconnect the white connected to the black in the outlet box. In stall a jumper from the wire nutted black in the outlet box to the other brass screw on the outlet. Wire nut the whites in the outlet box together with a pigtail to the silver screw on the outlet. Connect the fan/light black to the switch and wire nut the fan/light white to the white wire in the switch box. You should end up with this

Grounds have been left off for clarity.

tommy281 11-01-2009 07:14 AM

WOW.... thanks everyone-.

Kb i did it your way as it looked the most painless;)

everything worked like a charm.:thumbsup:

hay thanks for taking the time in drawing up a graph, bravo.


kbsparky 11-01-2009 07:53 AM


Originally Posted by tommy281 (Post 347953)
.... Kb i did it your way as it looked the most painless;)....

You're welcome :wink:

tommy281 11-01-2009 09:54 AM

I do have a quick question on a ceiling fan i just ordered.

since it is remote controled i was told that you CAN NOT operate the fan via light wall switch.

is this true????

AllanJ 11-01-2009 10:21 PM

>>> is this true?

If turning the fan off using the wall switch and turning it back on always leaves the fan in standby-off awaiting the command from the remote control unit ... then yes.

In other words the fan does not "remember" whether it was last on or off when power is removed and restored.

kbsparky 11-02-2009 06:16 AM

Other remotes will "remember" their last setting, and go to that once power is restored.

In other words, if you have the light on, and the fan off, and then cut off the power, the remote unit should go to that same level once power is restored with the wall switch.

Your mileage may vary. :whistling2:

joed 11-02-2009 09:15 AM

Since you ran 14/3 to the fan you could have the fan remote always powered and not affected by the wall switch. You can use the wall switch to operate only the light if you wish.

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