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Old 01-18-2009, 07:47 PM   #1
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snip a wire using rubber handled needle nose?

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You will likely damage your cutters. If you snip a cable, there will be fireworks. If you snip a wire, depending on how many amps are going through it, you may still damage your cutters. It's not a good idea.

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even if the light switch is off in that room, and it's the light fixture i'm snipping?
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Its possible to damage it with the switch off...why are you working with the breaker ON?!?
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There is no reason for a DIY to be working hot. There are very few reasons for someone with proper training and protective gear to work hot.
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You want to work hot why? Because you don't want to shut off the lights in the room, or inconvenience someone else in the house?

Think about this. Is it worth the possibility of shocking yourself, or worse?
Falling off the ladder you are standing on?
Working live is just not worth the risk. Just cut power and do the work safely!

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Some things are such a bad idea that the answer to the question is not even worth discussing or debating. The answer to the question is maybe you'll get electrocuted, and cutting the wire on a live circuit is a completely unsafe and unwise idea. If the circuit is definately shut off and dead, you're ok to cut. There is absolutely no reason or excuse to cut a wire or work on any wire in a home with the breaker still on, so be sure that breaker is off.

If you have to ask the question it would be worth taking a hard look at what you're doing, why you're doing it, and whether or not you have the know-how to do it safely and successfully.

All good answers to the question thus far.
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I initially closed this thread and have reconsidered when asked to do so. However, it is on a short leash. We must advocate for safety on this site and can't even consider discussion on the merits of working on a hot circuit.
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The OP is asking if it is OK to cut the wires to a light fixture with just the switch off. A properly wired light fixture should be safe to be disconnected if the switch is off. This is not the ideal way, and for a DIYer, is not the recommended way, and that should be pointed out, but you will not be electrocuted in doing so.

Just be aware there may be other wires in the fixture box that remain hot.
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Even if you can safely cut the wires while hot, at some point you'll need to strip them in order to install a new fixture. This is nearly impossible to do without coming in contact with the copper part of the wire.

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A properly wired light fixture should be safe to be disconnected if the switch is off. This is not the ideal way, and for a DIYer, is not the recommended way, and that should be pointed out, but you will not be electrocuted in doing so.
Although you are correct, you should cut to the chase.

It is possible that the circuit is not wired correctly and yes, you could get electrocuted.
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Breaker off and switch off the rubber handle is still good. It does not replace having the power off. But can ou allways be sure the power is off?? However there are special tools made for live circuits. And they go with experience and the need for the circuit to be left on when needing service. I can't see this being the case for ANY home DIY. So don't expect a tool to protect you from you lack of respect or ignorance. If the question is actually asked then there is not enough experience yet and should not be done! However the rubber is still good I think anyone that has worked long enough with electricity (unless they shut down the main every time) has found a circuit live that they expected to be dead. It was shut down and the switch was off. Maybe mislabeled maybe back feeding. A test light can be a friend indeed. If cutting into a wire on or off it is good to have a insulator between you and the tool. Then test the edge to ground before trying to strip so you are for sure it's NOT live.



I can't say I always do this and I will also say it's NOT a good to idea to work on a aluminum ladder bare foot.
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back feed will get you belive me i learned that the hard way if you dont know shut the main
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I want everyone to know that they don't put the rubber on there to "protect" you. Its just for comfort.
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Copper can expand up to 67,000 times its original size in an arc flash when it goes from a solid to a plasma. Think about that! That can result in burns, shocks, and shock wave injury such as collapsed chest/organs (on larger arc flash explosions).

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