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busman 08-08-2012 08:33 AM

Why is it always "weird", "odd" or "strange"?
 
It seems that most DIYers who post here insist that anything they don't understand must be weird, odd or strange. The implication seems to be that the DIY knows everything about electricity and therefore, the fact that they are having trouble understanding an issue means that electricity has decided to defy the laws of physics in their particular case. Is it really that hard to just admit that you don't understand? I'd be much more inclined to help those who would just admit that they still have much to learn.

With that said, there are "unusual" electrical circumstances. By that I mean, very uncommon. The best one I can remember was troubleshooting a complaint by an 89 year old veteran that washing the dishes caused his doorbell to ring. He even got to thinking that the local kids were watching him thru the kitchen window and doing ring-and-run every time he did the dishes. The problem was much simpler and only took about a half hour to diagnose.

Mark

DangerMouse 08-08-2012 08:38 AM

Soooo.... why DID washing the dishes cause his doorbell to ring?

DM

busman 08-08-2012 08:43 AM

I hate to give out the answer so soon, but as soon as I went into the basement to look for the doorbell transformer, I was about 95% sure I had my answer. The house was plumbed with honest-to-goodness copper drain lines. When I saw those, I know there must be an old bell wire touching the sink drain line. The clue was that only HOT water made the bell ring and the hot water was making the pipe expand and compress the bell wire, shorting it out.

I eventually found an old cloth bell wire pulled thru the same hole (drilled in a stud) as an 1-1/2" drain line.

Mark

zappa 08-08-2012 09:18 AM

I thought you were gonna say that the fix was to install curtains at the kitchen window. :jester:

danpik 08-08-2012 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by zappa (Post 984105)
I thought you were gonna say that the fix was to install curtains at the kitchen window. :jester:

Nope, paper plates:whistling2:

hammerlane 08-08-2012 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by busman (Post 984078)
Is it really that hard to just admit that you don't understand? I'd be much more inclined to help those who would just admit that they still have much to learn.

Heres the one I laugh at when i see:

joecaption 08-08-2012 09:27 AM

I'm sure we all have had some calls to fix, strange, to the home owner problums.
I like the ones asking what type paint to use because there's keeps failing, Once they post a picture the siding is sitting right on grade or below.
One that cracked me up was an elderly lady I was doing a small job for had low or dead batterys in her smoke detectors, and all of them were churping.
I had a big pack of 9 V batterys in my trailer so I offered to replace them for free.
She insisted it was not the batterys it was crickets in the house. She looked me straight in the eye and she said "and you know it's good luck to have a cricket in the house".

Another guy wants me to fix his rotted out plywood soffit, when I get there he mentions I hope you can fix it right, I've paid to have this same area fixed several times, they must be using the wrong wood.
It was a really shallow pitched porch roof, I got on the roof to take a look and there's a snapped off tree limb sticking out of the roof.
He says oh ya i saw that but do not have the money to fix it.
HMM.

Older lady ask me to take a look at her porch roof in a very old house in a really bad state of repair. I can see a hole in the roof from up stairs. I try to open the window to climb out the second story window window and the whole sash just falls apart it's so rotted.
The shingles were so bad there was no granuals left on them and they looked black, put at one time they had been gray.
I open up the roof and find all the rafters had rotten in 1/2 from all the leaks.
I give here a price she excepts, I write a contract and do the job, and it looks great.
She now expected me to replace the broken window, and change the shingles because there were suppost to be black not gray.
The whole house has gray shingles, the outbuilding are all gray, the undamage part of the roof was gray, why would I use black shingles for repairs?
Ever notice they let you finish the job before giving you a hard time about paying?

J. V. 08-08-2012 11:15 AM

Even some electricians call a circuit a "line".
I cannot stand that term.

electures 08-08-2012 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by hammerlane (Post 984107)
Heres the one I laugh at when i see:

Or a "plug".

silversport 08-08-2012 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by busman (Post 984078)
It seems that most DIYers who post here insist that anything they don't understand must be weird, odd or strange.

I think this thread is weird, odd, and strange.

k_buz 08-08-2012 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DangerMouse
Soooo.... why DID washing the dishes cause his doorbell to ring?

DM

The low volt controls for the touch to turn on faucet were wired into the doorbell chime.

av-geek 08-08-2012 03:25 PM

THis sounds similar to the issue I had in an old car. When I pressed on the brake, the trunk lid would sometimes pop open. I was able to troubleshoot it down to the wiring harness that went along the bottom edge of the drivers side door. Over the years, dirt and grime got in there and frayed the wiring (also the cover under the door after being stepped on for so long, was falling apart) Well, in that wiring harness was both the power trunk release line, and the brake light line. When I pressed the brake pedal, electricity would jump over to the trunk release circuit from the brake light circuit, and up flew the trunk lid!


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