Whats Wrong Here - Electrical - Page 2 - DIY Chatroom Home Improvement Forum


Go Back   DIY Chatroom Home Improvement Forum > Home Improvement > Electrical

CLICK HERE AND JOIN OUR COMMUNITY TODAY...IT'S FREE!

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 09-21-2009, 08:57 PM   #16
nap
You talking to me?
 
nap's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: sw mi
Posts: 5,407
Rewards Points: 2,000
Default

Whats Wrong Here


Nope, nothing wrong with a ground rod being inside.

Advertisement

nap is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-21-2009, 09:36 PM   #17
Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Brooklyn, New York (NYC)
Posts: 1,124
Rewards Points: 500
Thumbs up

Whats Wrong Here


J.V. (Poster #1) Meter is plugged in UPSIDE DOWN!!!!
(No matter what) don't Drink and drive, Ever!!!
spark plug is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-21-2009, 09:42 PM   #18
" Euro " electrician
 
frenchelectrican's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: WI & France { in France for now }
Posts: 5,369
Rewards Points: 2,000
Default

Whats Wrong Here


Quote:
Originally Posted by spark plug View Post
J.V. (Poster #1) Meter is plugged in UPSIDE DOWN!!!!
(No matter what) don't Drink and drive, Ever!!!
Very funny with upside down electronic meter they are designed to prevent backward running unless you have old school electronic meter it might run backward.

But with Net metering yeah you can run it foward or backward.

My shop do have netmetering when I do the load test the generator I run it back to the system but very limited time due the POCO transfomer is not very big 115 KVA and most generator I test they are useally 150 + KVA or larger so I run it short time otherwise I get the transfomer overheated { I got it pretty warm couple time but the other place I work on I can run up to 500 KVA otherwise I will knock the CT calberation off track }

Now let get back to the OP part IMO I know it look like nothing wrong but IMO if you have shed 40 PVC it will not pass if too close to get damaged especally with underground riser my SOP is run shed 80 and be done with it.

Merci,Marc
frenchelectrican is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-21-2009, 09:43 PM   #19
nap
You talking to me?
 
nap's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: sw mi
Posts: 5,407
Rewards Points: 2,000
Default

Whats Wrong Here


Quote:
Originally Posted by spark plug View Post
J.V. (Poster #1) Meter is plugged in UPSIDE DOWN!!!!
(No matter what) don't Drink and drive, Ever!!!

That is what I first thought but I actually went out and looked at mine. It is right side up compared to mine but I cannot read anything on the meter in the pic so I cannot tell by looking at the pic.
nap is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-21-2009, 09:44 PM   #20
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: South of Boston, MA
Posts: 17,248
Rewards Points: 2,000
Default

Whats Wrong Here


Quote:
Originally Posted by spark plug View Post
J.V. (Poster #1) Meter is plugged in UPSIDE DOWN!!!!
(No matter what) don't Drink and drive, Ever!!!
I was thinking it was.....but been a while since I saw a dial meter
So it's running backwards...they are paying the HO
Scuba_Dave is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-21-2009, 09:45 PM   #21
nap
You talking to me?
 
nap's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: sw mi
Posts: 5,407
Rewards Points: 2,000
Default

Whats Wrong Here


Quote:
Originally Posted by frenchelectrican View Post
Now let get back to the OP part IMO I know it look like nothing wrong but IMO if you have shed 40 PVC it will not pass if too close to get damaged especally with underground riser my SOP is run shed 80 and be done with it.

Merci,Marc
another thing I had thought of but:

an install such as this would require 80 but unless you can read the writing on the conduit, there is no way to tell if it is 40 or 80.
nap is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-21-2009, 09:47 PM   #22
nap
You talking to me?
 
nap's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: sw mi
Posts: 5,407
Rewards Points: 2,000
Default

Whats Wrong Here


how about answering a question:

IS there anything wrong in the pic?


There is nothing I can see. I can speculate all day long but there is nothing that is visible to me


edit:.

never mind. JV already said there is nothing wrong in the picture.

Last edited by nap; 09-21-2009 at 09:50 PM.
nap is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-21-2009, 09:50 PM   #23
" Euro " electrician
 
frenchelectrican's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: WI & France { in France for now }
Posts: 5,369
Rewards Points: 2,000
Default

Whats Wrong Here


Nap.,

Normally you can NOT tell what you have 40 or 80 in there unless it have marking but if you work with PVC long enough you can able to the rap test you can tell the diffrence there even with conductors in the conduit 80% of my time I useally get it right.

I don't listen to the sound I go by viberations both 40 and 80 have diffrence resonic sound affection so you can able hear the diffrence and feel the diffrence the 80 will set more lower pitch on sound and viberation.

Merci,Marc
frenchelectrican is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-21-2009, 09:51 PM   #24
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: South of Boston, MA
Posts: 17,248
Rewards Points: 2,000
Default

Whats Wrong Here


Quote:
Originally Posted by nap View Post
how about answering a question:

IS there anything wrong in the pic?

There is nothing I can see. I can speculate all day long but there is nothing that is visible to me.
I think that is the point JV was trying to make - comparing his pic here to the other washer thread
But in the other thread (washer hook up) there was an obvious problem, (lack of strain relief) & a not so obviuos problem - the green to neutral connection
If you were familiar with washer hookups then you may have been tipped off to check the green striped wire
Scuba_Dave is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-21-2009, 10:10 PM   #25
Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Brooklyn, New York (NYC)
Posts: 1,124
Rewards Points: 500
Angry

Whats Wrong Here


Quote:
Originally Posted by kbsparky View Post
That was the whole point of the dryer thread. Newer dryers utilize the green/yellow stripe wire, connected to a green screw, while the other end is not readily visible and connected to the neutral terminal.

Upon simple observation, one might think that is a correct configuration for a 4-wire cord, when in reality it is not.

I looked at some instruction manuals for electric dryers, and they call that jumper wire the "neutral grounding" wire.

It was intended to get you to think about such scenarios -- and notice how things are connected -- since the problem depicted is more widespread than most folks realize.
Getting back to what was said on another thread about the value of having field experience. The Manual writers rarely have field experience. And they confuse the terms, especially GROUND and NEUTRAL (and the implications of such lack of knowledge)! Eliminate Confusion through Education!!!
spark plug is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-21-2009, 10:20 PM   #26
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 2,294
Rewards Points: 1,000
Default

Whats Wrong Here


Meter installed on a roll up garage door?
220/221 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-21-2009, 10:21 PM   #27
Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Brooklyn, New York (NYC)
Posts: 1,124
Rewards Points: 500
Thumbs up

Whats Wrong Here


Quote:
Originally Posted by Scuba_Dave View Post
I was thinking it was.....but been a while since I saw a dial meter
So it's running backwards...they are paying the HO
It won't come to that... Because when the Utility has to pay the customer, they'll figure something is wrong. (I originally wrote that the only way that could happen is if the P.C. employee had a few beers before installing the meter. But I edited it out. A little humor, though, never hurt anyone!(No matter what)Don't Drink and Drive, Ever!!!
spark plug is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-21-2009, 10:35 PM   #28
nap
You talking to me?
 
nap's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: sw mi
Posts: 5,407
Rewards Points: 2,000
Default

Whats Wrong Here


Quote:
Originally Posted by spark plug View Post
It won't come to that... Because when the Utility has to pay the customer, they'll figure something is wrong. (I originally wrote that the only way that could happen is if the P.C. employee had a few beers before installing the meter. But I edited it out. A little humor, though, never hurt anyone!(No matter what)Don't Drink and Drive, Ever!!!
there is a story around my parts about a farmer who hooked is generator into his service feeder BEFORE the meter. Not only did the POCO get to charge for power they delivered but the POCO actually got to charge for the power the farmer generated and sent through his meter to his service panel.


Quote:
marc:

Normally you can NOT tell what you have 40 or 80 in there unless it have marking but if you work with PVC long enough you can able to the rap test you can tell the diffrence there even with conductors in the conduit 80% of my time I useally get it right.

I don't listen to the sound I go by viberations both 40 and 80 have diffrence resonic sound affection so you can able hear the diffrence and feel the diffrence the 80 will set more lower pitch on sound and viberation.
I can definitely tell by whacking the pipe if it is 40 or 80, especially if I use it to whack my apprentice. He yells a lot louder when I use 80.

It's just that I can't tell by a pic.
nap is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-21-2009, 10:37 PM   #29
nap
You talking to me?
 
nap's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: sw mi
Posts: 5,407
Rewards Points: 2,000
Default

Whats Wrong Here


Quote:
Originally Posted by Scuba_Dave View Post
I think that is the point JV was trying to make - comparing his pic here to the other washer thread
But in the other thread (washer hook up) there was an obvious problem, (lack of strain relief) & a not so obviuos problem - the green to neutral connection
If you were familiar with washer hookups then you may have been tipped off to check the green striped wire
I didn't catch that one. After shelling out somewhere around $800 buck for a washer a couple weeks ago, just reading about a washer gives me cold sweats so I stay away from anything to do with washers.
nap is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-21-2009, 11:36 PM   #30
Member
 
300zx's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Florida
Posts: 630
Rewards Points: 500
Post

Whats Wrong Here


Quote:
Originally Posted by nap View Post
I didn't catch that one. After shelling out somewhere around $800 buck for a washer a couple weeks ago, just reading about a washer gives me cold sweats so I stay away from anything to do with washers.
was a electric clothes dryer: What's wrong here?

Advertisement

300zx is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
What did i do wrong? - Outlet install trips breaker nymex Electrical 22 05-07-2009 03:44 PM
replaced 3way toggle with rocker switch - what's wrong? ellabo Electrical 8 09-22-2008 05:16 PM
New Compressor - Wrong Charge? shayneb HVAC 4 08-23-2008 09:13 AM
Whats right and wrong? eric s General DIY Discussions 19 05-09-2007 09:03 PM
Does this seem wrong? LRAO Electrical 6 01-24-2007 08:55 PM




Top of Page | View New Posts