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Old 12-22-2013, 07:55 AM   #16
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Aussie tamper proof outlets use a sliding shutter.
Are the american ones different ?
North American tamper proof



And how they work.


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Old 12-22-2013, 12:25 PM   #17
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I think it all depends on the brand and the individual receptacle. I replaced all my old c. 1993 outdoor GFCI's with new Leviton WR/TR ones. Some are as easy as a regular receptacle, but one (of course the one I use the most) was a complete PITA. Swapped it with one of the others ones that rarely gets used and now you would really know it was TR.
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Old 12-22-2013, 02:33 PM   #18
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I noticed this is all they sell now at Home Depot, but if you ask they can get some old inventory of regulars but I imagine it will eventually run out. I had run out of outlets and had to ask if they had the non tamper proof as I had already started installing some and it would look odd if half of them are tamper proof and half arn't. I should perhaps stock up on the standard ones for when I do the rest of the basement... Though guess it won't be the end of the world if one wall is different than the other.

I think these are ok and I don't have issues with them, but they should not be forced upon us. Same with AFCIs.
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Old 12-22-2013, 02:51 PM   #19
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Non tamper resistant receptacles are still legal to install...just not in a dwelling with these caveats.

Exception: Receptacles in the following locations shall
not be required to be tamper-resistant:
(1) Receptacles located more than 1.7 m (51⁄2 ft) above the
floor.
(2) Receptacles that are part of a luminaire or appliance.
(3) A single receptacle or a duplex receptacle for two appliances
located within dedicated space for each appliance
that, in normal use, is not easily moved from one
place to another and that is cord-and-plug connected
in accordance with 400.7(A)(6), (A)(7), or (A)(8).
(4) Nongrounding receptacles used for replacements as
permitted in 406.4(D)(2)(a).
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Old 12-22-2013, 07:09 PM   #20
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When you, the DIY person, asks questions you will get many replies.

Lawyer: It is a liability issue.
Professional electrician: Call a professional electrician
Retired electrician: That is a violation of NJ code section 52 paragraph six.
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Divorced: Please don't butt into my conversation with my on-line friends.
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That's the kind of fix I was looking for. Though it was less helpful to say "Easy stuff!" instead of actually describing how to dismantle, clean and lube. So pretend I am not an electrician - how do you do it?
Sorry but this technique does not apply.

Also sorry that you feel the majority of the information posted here is a waste of your time. Many people here work very hard to provide safe and code compliant advice for zero paycheck other than knowing they helped.
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You can't service the inside of receptacles.
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The australian style outlets are held together with 4 small screws,
So you just take the screws out and it should come apart,
Look inside, there should be small piece of plastic that slides
across to allow the hot and neutral pins to go in place.
clean the slides with some cotton buds,
then when clean add a very small amount of oil
or grease to the slides.
re assemble and test with a plug before wiring it up again.


I hope your outlets are simulair in construction to ours ?
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You can't service the inside of receptacles.

WHY ?

For practicle reasons ?

Or legal liability issue's ?

On a practicule level it usually can be done !
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Technically you could probably make your own receptacles with a 3D printer but they'd be illegal since they would not be UL approved. That would be totally counter productive though considering they're not that expensive to buy. :P
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WHY ? For practicle reasons ? Or legal liability issue's ? On a practicule level it usually can be done !
Ours just aren't made to be disassembled.
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My addition has the TR's................NO issues at all.....

Maybe it's a loose nut?
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When you, the DIY person, asks questions you will get many replies.

Lawyer: It is a liability issue.
Professional electrician: Call a professional electrician
Retired electrician: That is a violation of NJ code section 52 paragraph six.
Unemployed electrician: Do it right no matter what the cost.
Gadfly: I can't help you but..
Sociopath: I can't wait to see you killed for trying it.
Pompous A-hole: It's simple, just do this.
Can't be bothered yet here I am: You must be doing something wrong.
Old timer: try googling instead asking us important people.
Divorced: Please don't butt into my conversation with my on-line friends.
Preacher: If you can't understand electricity why are you here?
etc.

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We need a "No Thanks" button for posts like yours.
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Actually, though there was a slow start, I got quite a bit of discussion on my question. So I beat the odds, thanks, folks!

Not sure how to label your posting, though.
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The australian style outlets are held together with 4 small screws,
So you just take the screws out and it should come apart,
Look inside, there should be small piece of plastic that slides
across to allow the hot and neutral pins to go in place.
clean the slides with some cotton buds,
then when clean add a very small amount of oil
or grease to the slides.
re assemble and test with a plug before wiring it up again.

Ah, so you are saying the problem is just dirty, dry sticking shutters. I wonder if giving them a good soak in some chemical or oil would help the American style. Though if I want to the trouble of removing them I would probably just replace them with the old style. Any ideas that can be used with the receptacle still in the wall?

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