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radon 04-08-2008 06:36 PM

in-wall speaker wire?
 
Hi,
I'm currently renovating a house I intend to live in. It's down to bare studs... perfect time to set up that wired surround-sound system but make it look wireless :)

What should I run through the walls for speaker wire? Your standard speaker wire isn't well-insulated, and isn't recommended... so what IS recommended? What wire have others run for speakers?

Thanks!
Don

220/221 04-08-2008 06:39 PM

I use speaker wire :laughing:



Simple 16-2 works fine for me.

jerryh3 04-08-2008 06:55 PM

http://www.bluejeanscable.com/articles/inwallrating.htm

Jim Port 04-08-2008 07:12 PM

Some systems use CAT5 cable to distribute to volume controls and then speaker wire from the control to the speakers.

Speedy Petey 04-08-2008 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim Port (Post 114782)
Some systems use CAT5 cable to distribute to volume controls and then speaker wire from the control to the speakers.

Well what system are you using?

Not all are the same.


You CANNOT use "standard" speaker wire in wall. It MUST be in-wall rated.
Read this: http://www.audioholics.com/education...-cable-ratings

220/221 04-08-2008 11:27 PM

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You CANNOT use "standard" speaker wire in wall. It MUST be in-wall rated.


Or.....it will catch fire?

chris75 04-08-2008 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by 220/221 (Post 114855)
Or.....it will catch fire?

Nope worse, you wont get your Certificate of Occupancy...

radon 04-09-2008 06:32 AM

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Nope worse, you wont get your Certificate of Occupancy...
Yeah that's what I'm concerned about. So there's in-wall rated speaker wire?

Quote:

Well what system are you using?
Don't have a system yet - don't even have walls :) I'm okay with simple (ie 16-2 wire) but adding a "control" run like cat5 would be easy enough too, even if I don't end up using it. Is that worth while?

Speedy Petey 04-09-2008 06:56 AM

Sure, Cat 5 is cheap enough to take than chance that you'll need it.
Personally I would pick a system first then find out what to run.

Speedy Petey 04-09-2008 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by 220/221 (Post 114855)
Or.....it will catch fire?

Hey 220. I wouldn't expect any less of a reply from you. :thumbsup:

The stuff I get is around $70/500' for 16/2. Cheap enough to do the right thing.
What do you use? Lamp zip cord?

chris75 04-09-2008 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Speedy Petey (Post 114900)
Hey 220. I wouldn't expect any less of a reply from you. :thumbsup:


What do you use? Lamp zip cord?


Hahahahahahahahahaha...... :laughing::laughing::laughing:

220/221 04-10-2008 12:15 AM

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Hey 220. I wouldn't expect any less of a reply from you
It wasn't a reply numbnuts, it was a question.:laughing:

What is the difference between zip cord, speaker wire and rated speaker wire? It is SPEAKER wire.

I say there is no difference. Teach me something.

Speedy Petey 04-10-2008 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by 220/221 (Post 115157)
I say there is no difference. Teach me something.

Sorry bud, that's not my job. This is stuff you should know already, I shouldn't have to teach you.

That link I posted has some very good information.

Way back I used to have to run zip type cord for speakers because I didn't know any better and that's what I was told to do. That is until I questioned it like the tons of other things I questioned, and still do. Then I found out what was proper and correct for the application. I was pretty green back then.
Don't get me wrong, I'll admit that zip cord for speakers is not something that will likely burn a house down, but why bother doing it wrong when doing it right is just as easy.

For a while now I have realized that there is a VERY little difference in doing the right thing and not doing the right thing. This speaker wire situation is a perfect example. The cost and effort difference between doing the right thing and not is negligible, ESPECIALLY if you are doing this for a living.

220/221 04-10-2008 07:42 PM

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Sorry bud, that's not my job. This is stuff you should know already, I shouldn't have to teach you.


So...you're sayin you don't know? :laughing:

It is my nature to ALWAYS ask why, to question authority if you will. If I can't figure out why, I will ask someone. If no one knows I just use my best judgement whether or not to accept the fact.

gfchew 04-10-2008 07:51 PM

Hah! I just did the same thing.

I used CL3-rated 16 awg wire for my in-ceiling speakers. For my towers, I used CL3-rated speaker wire. You need CL3-rated wire for in-wall installations.

From my research most people couldn't tell the difference between the gauge.

CAT-5 is okay for control or if you have IP-speakers which are really expensive, but I wouldn't run your signal over the CAT-5.


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