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Old 02-26-2008, 11:09 PM   #16
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Klein offers linesman pliers with the same style as those Ideals.

I did not know that.

They must have come out with them after the Ideals.

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I did not know that.

They must have come out with them after the Ideals.
I don't know. I have seen (and used) both for as long as I can remember.
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I only use wire nuts. I don't know how many times a customer has changed their minds, and added, or deleted a circuit, and I had to cut the ground apart.
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So when using a crimp ring, how many times should they be twisted?
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I don't know. I have seen (and used) both for as long as I can remember.
No surprise- once there is a good market, all other companies start duplicating them. I have seen similar to Klein 11055 made by Craftsman, GB, Ideal, Greenlee, Xcelite and Cooper tools.
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So when using a crimp ring, how many times should they be twisted?
Note the box label in post #8. Strip 3/4", insert through cap and twist. You should twist enough to hold the wires together until you can crimp the cap.
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I only use wire nuts. I don't know how many times a customer has changed their minds, and added, or deleted a circuit, and I had to cut the ground apart.
I hear this argument all the time and IMO it holds no water.
So what if you have to change something? Just add another crimp.
Need to remove a wire? Just cut it off behind the crimp.

For as many times as you actually might HAVE to remove a crimp, I'll take the benefits of them ANY day. The two biggest being; takes up much less space in a box, and you can leave out as many tails as their are devices in multi-gang boxes.
I HATE seeing one long ground wire looped from device to device. THAT IMO is far more of a PIA than a crimp will ever be.
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I HATE seeing one long ground wire looped from device to device. THAT IMO is far more of a PIA than a crimp will ever be.
I agree especially if you going back to a 4 gang to add a dimmer...
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I like them, but I hate it when the other guys use crimps as an excuse to cut all the other grounds short. Leave it long and fold the extra back...
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Do you guys do any old work. I find those rings as worthless as stab-lock connections. Now that I think of it I am wrong. I do some work for a lawyer that has 28 rentals. Most are old farm houses converted about 30 years ago. The person that did the electrical work did poor quality work, and half of my work is repairing his mess. I stand corrected, and thanks for making me think about that. I am saying that from my experience with ground rings I formed an opinion on the RINGS.

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Do you guys do any old work. I find those rings as worthless as stablock connections. Now that I think of it I am wrong. I do some work for a lawyer that has 28 rentals. Most are old farm houses converted about 30 years ago. The person that did the electrical work did poor quality work, and half of my work is repairing his mess. I stand corrected, and thanks for making me think about that.

That doesnt mean that everyone that uses them does a bad job.
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Do you guys do any old work.
These days? TONS.

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