used old fuse box as junction for new breaker box

07-24-2012, 03:21 PM	#1
hohadcr Member     Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Canada Posts: 252	used old fuse box as junction for new breaker box I have a fuse box for a part of the house. I would like to add a breaker box. I am going to just use the old fuse box as a conjunction box, and add the breaker box on it. My questions is: how exactly am I going to do the wiring for this fuse box/conjuction box? Do i keep the fuses in the fuse box?

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07-24-2012, 03:47 PM	#2
jbfan Electrical Contractor   Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Newnan GA Posts: 5,023	used old fuse box as junction for new breaker box Best way is to remove the guts of the old panel. __________________ Yes I am a Pirate, 200 years too late. "Jimmy Buffett"

07-25-2012, 12:52 PM	#3
hohadcr Member     Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Canada Posts: 252	used old fuse box as junction for new breaker box Thanks jbfan, Can you elaborate? Remove the "guts" of the old panel? How do I connect the wires between the old fuse panel and the new breaker box? How to put the wires in after the fuses?

07-25-2012, 04:08 PM	#4
hohadcr Member     Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Canada Posts: 252	used old fuse box as junction for new breaker box Do I buy all new relays and install them in the old fuse box? thx

07-25-2012, 06:31 PM	#5
Julius793 Member     Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: New york Posts: 1,043	used old fuse box as junction for new breaker box remove everything from the fuse box, buses fuses till is just an empty box with wires coming in. then extend evey wire with wire nut to your new panel. __________________ Electricity will kill you if you give it a chance

07-25-2012, 06:33 PM	#6
Speedy Petey Licensed Electrical Cont.     Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY State Posts: 6,164	used old fuse box as junction for new breaker box Why would you want to do this? Just install the breaker panel where the fuse box is. I see and hear this a lot, but I cannot understand the logic of it. __________________ Sometimes I feel like if I answer any more questions it is like someone trying to climb over a fence to jump off a bridge and me giving them a boost.

07-25-2012, 06:39 PM	#7
Julius793 Member     Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: New york Posts: 1,043	used old fuse box as junction for new breaker box Quote: Originally Posted by Speedy Petey Why would you want to do this? Just install the breaker panel where the fuse box is. I see and hear this a lot, but I cannot understand the logic of it. if you want the new panel in another location __________________ Electricity will kill you if you give it a chance

07-25-2012, 08:14 PM	#8
stickboy1375 E2 Electrician     Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Litchfield, CT Posts: 3,113	used old fuse box as junction for new breaker box Quote: Originally Posted by Speedy Petey Why would you want to do this? Just install the breaker panel where the fuse box is. I see and hear this a lot, but I cannot understand the logic of it. I've done this because some knuckle head installed the panel in a crawl space, then the woman put an addition on with a full basement, she didn't want the OCD's in the crawlspace anymore. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

07-25-2012, 08:19 PM	#9
k_buz Licensed Electrician     Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: SE Wisconsin Posts: 3,230	used old fuse box as junction for new breaker box Around these parts, you cannot just remove a fuse box and install breakers in their place. You would need to update the grounding, and if you update grounding and the panel, you would be required to update the meter socket as well. Legal panel changes are few and far between around here. __________________ Location...Location...Location Answers based on the National Electric Code. Always check local amendments.

07-25-2012, 08:23 PM	#10
stickboy1375 E2 Electrician     Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Litchfield, CT Posts: 3,113	used old fuse box as junction for new breaker box Quote: Originally Posted by k_buz Around these parts, you cannot just remove a fuse box and install breakers in their place. You would need to update the grounding, and if you update grounding and the panel, you would be required to update the meter socket as well. Legal panel changes are few and far between around here. That is insane..... the requirement I mean. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

07-25-2012, 08:35 PM	#11
Speedy Petey Licensed Electrical Cont.     Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY State Posts: 6,164	used old fuse box as junction for new breaker box Quote: Originally Posted by k_buz Around these parts, you cannot just remove a fuse box and install breakers in their place. You would need to update the grounding, and if you update grounding and the panel, you would be required to update the meter socket as well. Legal panel changes are few and far between around here. I agree, that's just messed up. __________________ Sometimes I feel like if I answer any more questions it is like someone trying to climb over a fence to jump off a bridge and me giving them a boost.

07-25-2012, 08:35 PM	#12
Gymschu Member     Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Eastern Ohio (heart of Appalachia) Posts: 1,700	used old fuse box as junction for new breaker box I cannot imagine that your insurance company would sign off on this.

07-25-2012, 08:36 PM	#13
Speedy Petey Licensed Electrical Cont.     Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY State Posts: 6,164	used old fuse box as junction for new breaker box Quote: Originally Posted by stickboy1375 I've done this because some knuckle head installed the panel in a crawl space, then the woman put an addition on with a full basement, she didn't want the OCD's in the crawlspace anymore. Now this I get. I meant just using the fuse box as a splice box and putting a panel right nearby. __________________ Sometimes I feel like if I answer any more questions it is like someone trying to climb over a fence to jump off a bridge and me giving them a boost.

07-25-2012, 08:36 PM	#14
Speedy Petey Licensed Electrical Cont.     Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY State Posts: 6,164	used old fuse box as junction for new breaker box Quote: Originally Posted by Gymschu I cannot imagine that your insurance company would sign off on this. What does the insurance company have to do with it??? __________________ Sometimes I feel like if I answer any more questions it is like someone trying to climb over a fence to jump off a bridge and me giving them a boost.

07-25-2012, 08:36 PM	#15
stickboy1375 E2 Electrician     Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Litchfield, CT Posts: 3,113	used old fuse box as junction for new breaker box Quote: Originally Posted by Speedy Petey Now this I get. I meant just using the fuse box as a splice box and putting a panel right nearby. Right, I dont get that either.... __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.