Go Back   DIY Chatroom Home Improvement Forum > Home Improvement > Electrical

CLICK HERE AND JOIN OUR COMMUNITY TODAY...IT'S FREE!

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 04-21-2012, 10:05 AM   #1
Newbie
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 1
Rewards Points: 10
Question

Upgrade Svc., Overhead; Bill vs. Estimate Question


Appreciate any help with this.

Background:

- new to us old house, got three quotes for an upgrade to 200A service plus addition of three new circuits in conduit with receptacles (Chicago area, conduit is code in just about every town around, I have no issue with that);

- existing service to house was overhead, opted to keep it overhead and not bury it;

- the quote says, exactly: "Installation of a 200 amp 240 volt overhead electric service complete with riser, outdoor meter socket with a 200 amp disconnect, 40 position circuit breaker type distribution panel..." etc.;

I understood from discussing the work with the contractor we chose that install overhead service meant to include the work and materials needed to upgrade the line coming from the pole at the alley to the house to handle 200A capacity; paid 50% down on quote;

- the morning the boss and tech show up for the work, boss says we already have a 200A overhead, which I seem to recall the home inspector mentioning months ago before the closing (makes sense because the overhead runs to a single room addition put on several years ago), but boss was the guy who came to the house to quote the job in the first place, didn't mention anything about the existing overhead capacity at the time;

- the work gets done, seems fine; tech left without going over anything with us but whatever.

Final bill matches the quote to the dollar. There is no indication that there were any surprises during the work.

Since the quote says installation of overhead service and they didn't need to replace the overhead lines from the pole I think the final bill should be lower than the quote. The distance from the pole to the riser is about 40 feet.

Should I expect from the wording in the quote that the final bill should be lower than the quote because they didn't have to touch the existing overhead?

About how much lower?

We didn't go with the lowest quote, didn't beat him up on price and the total bill is quite a pretty penny, so I think he would be making good money either way.

I know there is no way for someone to tell me an exact dollar figure here based on a blog post, but I'd like to get some kind of idea so I can start my conversation about the final bill.

Thanks for any help out there.

Rpsjr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-21-2012, 10:14 AM   #2
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Hartfield VA
Posts: 27,115
Rewards Points: 3,348
Default

Upgrade Svc., Overhead; Bill vs. Estimate Question


Not sure how it works there, but around here the power company is responsable for running any wires from the pole to the meter socket in a residental home.

joecaption is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-21-2012, 10:25 AM   #3
A "Handy Husband"
 
rjniles's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: South Carolina Low Country
Posts: 4,133
Rewards Points: 2,176
Default

Upgrade Svc., Overhead; Bill vs. Estimate Question


Quote:
Originally Posted by joecaption View Post
Not sure how it works there, but around here the power company is responsable for running any wires from the pole to the meter socket in a residental home.
+1

Most areas that I am familiar with the POCO provides the overhead drop for the pole to the customers weather head. Your electrician's quote proveded for upgrading the meter socket, conduit and cable up to the weather head.

Even if the service drop had to be replaced it would not have cost you more. And since it didn't it does not cost less.
__________________
Location:
Coastal South Carolina
rjniles is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-21-2012, 10:36 AM   #4
Licensed Electrician
 
k_buz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: SE Wisconsin
Posts: 4,340
Rewards Points: 2,000
Default

Upgrade Svc., Overhead; Bill vs. Estimate Question


The overhead lines to the house would be called "the drop". That is not in the wording of the quote and like what has already been said, that is usually the POCO's responsibility. EC's are not normally allowed to touch that period.
k_buz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-21-2012, 05:23 PM   #5
Electrical Contractor
 
kbsparky's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Delmarva
Posts: 3,368
Rewards Points: 2,000
Default

Upgrade Svc., Overhead; Bill vs. Estimate Question


YOU got what you bargained for, don't complain! When they prepared the estimate, they already figured that those wires would not have to replaced by them....
__________________
-KB

Life is uncertain -- eat dessert first!!
kbsparky is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-21-2012, 06:42 PM   #6
Licensed Electrical Cont.
 
Speedy Petey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: NY State
Posts: 6,867
Rewards Points: 2,038
Default

Upgrade Svc., Overhead; Bill vs. Estimate Question


I agree with all the others. I have NEVER heard of an area where the overhead drop was the customer/contractor responsibility.

It always belongs to the POCO and they repair/replace/install at their own discretion.

The term "overhead service" refers to the fact that the service enters from over head as opposed to underground.
On the contrary, with an underground service the service lateral (cable from the POCO transformer) is typically customer supplied and owned.
__________________
Sometimes I feel like if I answer any more questions it is like someone trying to climb over a fence to jump off a bridge and me giving them a boost.
Answers based on the 2008 & 2011 NEC.
Speedy Petey is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Speedy Petey For This Useful Post:
frenchelectrican (04-22-2012)
Old 04-22-2012, 03:15 AM   #7
JOATMON
 
ddawg16's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: S. California
Posts: 7,526
Rewards Points: 2,394
Default

Upgrade Svc., Overhead; Bill vs. Estimate Question


Likewise from me.....I upgraded my service from 60A to 200A 11 years ago.....I provided a new weatherhead with the right wire in it...power company did the rest.

__________________
"The dream is free but the hustle is sold separately."

My 2-Story Addition Build in Progress Link ... My Garage Build Link and My Jeep Build Link
ddawg16 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
High electric Bill? HautingLu General DIY Discussions 9 08-28-2009 12:39 PM
Service Upgrade - Ground Bonding Question AndrewF Electrical 28 06-15-2009 01:25 PM
Boilers cost estimate - newbie question jschmoe HVAC 4 04-05-2008 11:13 AM
200A Upgrade - Meter Socket Location Question bjones Electrical 2 11-12-2007 03:03 PM
Overhead storage question doinitmyself General DIY Discussions 5 05-02-2007 12:59 AM




Top of Page | View New Posts

Copyright © 2003-2014 Escalate Media. All Rights Reserved.