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Old 11-25-2007, 11:09 AM   #46
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Solid; YES get a professional in there ASAP. You may try this also; I dont know if your power company is responsible only on to the meter or up to the panel so, I would call them fist thing Monday morning, since you are a homeowner who is "scared" :} dont tell them you know anything, play the game.:}:}:}:} If you catch em on a good day they may just find and fix it for ya for free even if they dont they will surely point ya in the right direction.
Worth the dime in my book
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Yeah, i'm sure all POCO's keep main breakers on their trucks...
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Old 11-25-2007, 11:11 AM   #47
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My sarcasm sensors are off the chart.

Someone point me in the right direction.
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Old 11-25-2007, 12:12 PM   #48
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Chris: Yeah Right OK so YOU know EXACTLY WHAT THE PROBLEM IS therefore dont call anybody but YOU to fix it.
God forbid that he calls POCO and they find out it is the feeder to the breaker and THEY WILL FIX IT for him. That would be terrible.
Excuse me for trying to find a way that could lead him to a solution without paying a sparky to come and look.
He needs help and I thought thats what this forum was for, obviously I was mistaken
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Old 11-25-2007, 12:30 PM   #49
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Chris: Yeah Right OK so YOU know EXACTLY WHAT THE PROBLEM IS therefore dont call anybody but YOU to fix it.
God forbid that he calls POCO and they find out it is the feeder to the breaker and THEY WILL FIX IT for him. That would be terrible.
Excuse me for trying to find a way that could lead him to a solution without paying a sparky to come and look.
He needs help and I thought thats what this forum was for, obviously I was mistaken
Easy cowboy... I can see the problem, gave my answer free of charge no less, a little sarcasm should not hurt your feelings... gezzz...
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Old 11-25-2007, 01:06 PM   #50
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Everyone take a breath.

I've decided to have my father-in-law change out the 150 amp main breaker. If the problem persists beyond that I'm going to call a professional. If it solves the problem, excellent.

I'll let you all know any progress I make.
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Old 11-25-2007, 01:07 PM   #51
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Electricians on the board - give me a ballpark invoice for something like this. Replacing the main 150 amp breaker ($107 part) and pulling a new line from the meter to the breaker box ~10 feet.
solidground in my neck of the woods invoice would be
breaker $107? taking your word for that
alum.entrance cable 10' $40 upgrade to copper $75-$100
misc. $50
aanti ox. pvc sleeve &
bushings etc.
permit $ 30

material 227 plus mark up?
labor 250

hope this helps
just something to think about but you can buy a new 200 amp seimens panel for 10 bucks more than that main breaker.But then you will have more labor costs plus breakers probaly round 12-$1400 00 total cost.remember Prices vary greatly according to location. but you can sleep well knowing that panel isnt compromised.
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Old 11-25-2007, 01:15 PM   #52
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My father-in-law mentioned the price of a newer box and possibly even upgrading to a 200 amp box for future expansion of the house. I decided against that at the time because of the amount of time it would take to dismantle the current box and install everything into the newer box. He was also about to get leg surgery at the time.
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My father-in-law mentioned the price of a newer box and possibly even upgrading to a 200 amp box for future expansion of the house. I decided against that at the time because of the amount of time it would take to dismantle the current box and install everything into the newer box. He was also about to get leg surgery at the time.

If you have a 150 amp service now, youll have to get the poco out there to upgrade your service and you will have to pull a permit. If your gonna go that route now would probably be the best time to do it.
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Old 11-25-2007, 02:49 PM   #54
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GA power never upgrades their lateral where I'm from. If you go from 100A to 200A their line stays the same. Makes you wonder, huh?

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Andy; Oh Yeah unless they were really generous when they ran the lateral the first time, :}:} scary it is.

Solid; changing the breaker will not hurt you however that burned conductor IMHO should NOT be reused.

Chris; your sarcasm did NOT bother me at all. I just thought it was not needed and did not contribute to the question that Solid was asking or to the nature of this forum.
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Old 11-25-2007, 03:57 PM   #56
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GA power never upgrades their lateral where I'm from. If you go from 100A to 200A their line stays the same. Makes you wonder, huh?

Andy

I understand the POCO has thier own set of guidelines for what lines can carry what, but I'll assume they know what thier doing and leave it at that
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Old 11-25-2007, 04:10 PM   #57
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1/0 or 2/0 AL is what they run underground around here for EVERYTHING up to 300A.

I like it when I'm pulling me feeder and they are running their lateral and they make fun of me. ('cause I'm pullin a big-ass wire)
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GA power never upgrades their lateral where I'm from. If you go from 100A to 200A their line stays the same. Makes you wonder, huh?

Andy
Hello Andy.
This is pretty much SOP with all utilities. It doesn't make me wonder, since 75% of the time an average home has a load of under 5 amps.
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1/0 or 2/0 AL is what they run underground around here for EVERYTHING up to 300A.

I like it when I'm pulling me feeder and they are running their lateral and they make fun of me. ('cause I'm pullin a big-ass wire)
In Central Park, we ran 5 parallel sets of 500's to connect to ConEd's 1 set of 1/0.
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I'm not terribly familiar with the anatomy of a circuit panel, so I don't know what to do, which leads me to believe I'm going to have to call in a professional.

I guess the one thing I'm looking for (other than a clearcut answer) is if it would be worth it to replace the 150 amp main breaker in the box before calling a professional? My father in law is a maintenance guy if 30+ years and has experience installing these types of panels and said he could replace the breaker, but at $110 for just this one breaker I wonder if I should just skip over the DIY repair and let an electrician kill me with his bill. Sure, his bill will be lower than the cost to repair a burned down house, I realize. I have just never owned a home before and it's getting tiresome having people like this (plumbers, electricians, furnace repair, etc) come in here, do what seems to be next to nothing, and then drop a $500 invoice in my hand.
What seems to be "next to nothing" is basically an experienced tradesman or woman who has spent quite a bit of time and energy, and sometimes money, tapping into a skillset they posess, and achieved for the purpose of earning a living.
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