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01-06-2011, 10:48 AM
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i bought some property from a guy who does directional boring...he knew he was going to put a pond in so when he put the conduit in for the electric co. to run the service wire he went down 23ft where i ended up putting the pond...we only dug down 10 ft where the wire runs underneath the pond....this wire runs from the electric pole to the transformer next to the house...total distance about 500ft......now that the pond is almost full kids are going to want to swim this summer.....safe? the wire was put in one continuous piece of flexible conduit per the electric co. but the electric co. said they didnt know the pond was going to be there and they dont recommend it being there...thanks everyone
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01-06-2011, 10:56 AM
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now that the pond is almost full kids are going to want to swim this summer.....safe?
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Ayuh,... I can think of absolutely No reasons it wouldn't be Safe....
Probably Way Safer than overhead Hi-tension lines going though yer neighborhood...
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01-06-2011, 11:01 AM
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Is this the main feed to the house ?
As I understand going under/over a pool or swimming "hole" is not allowed
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01-06-2011, 11:22 AM
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if you dont mind me asking bondo what is it you do? electrician? 
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01-06-2011, 11:23 AM
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yes its the main ...its actually a underground primary to the transformer
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01-06-2011, 03:33 PM
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I'm going to say NO. however we can't give you a answer, this is a question for your local AHJ.
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Last edited by Saturday Cowboy; 01-07-2011 at 06:26 PM.
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01-06-2011, 03:41 PM
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say no to what cowboy?
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01-06-2011, 03:48 PM
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if the wire was to short out its already in the ground...the electricity should not go up in to the water through a person then back in to the ground? wouldnt it just go right in to the ground where the break in the wire was? remember this is 23 ft in the ground...13 ft lower than the bottom of the pond
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01-06-2011, 03:58 PM
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if you dont mind me asking bondo what is it you do? electrician? |
Nope,... But I stayed in a Holiday Inn once, 'n I have a Doctorate Degree from the University of Life, in Common Sense.... 
As you stated, the power line is 13' Below, underground, from the bottom of a mud pond....
Electricty is Lazy,...
It don't like travelin', 'n goes Directly to Ground, as quickly as possible...
Even if the line was completely Severed, Nobody swimming in the pond would be in Any danger, what so ever....
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01-06-2011, 04:01 PM
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yeah that common sense comes in handy...thanks bondo!
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01-06-2011, 04:32 PM
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You talking to me?
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.the electricity should not go up in to the water through a person then back in to the ground?d
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but should isn't won't. Being in the field for a few years, I have seen a lot of things that "shouldn't" have happened yet they did. Unless you know all of the specifics of the area, there is no way to determine the power will not flow into, or more accurately, through the pond.
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Electricty is Lazy,...
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no, that is incorrect. It returns to its' source through the least resistive path.
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01-06-2011, 04:33 PM
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Even if the line was completely Severed, Nobody swimming in the pond would be in Any danger, what so ever....
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that is a really really wrong answer.
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01-06-2011, 04:40 PM
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Quote:
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Electricty is Lazy,...
It don't like travelin', 'n goes Directly to Ground, as quickly as possible...
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Really now? Is this what they taught in the university?
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01-06-2011, 04:42 PM
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Licensed Electrical Cont.
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Nope,... But I stayed in a Holiday Inn once, 'n I have a Doctorate Degree from the University of Life, in Common Sense.... |
And of course this is is perfectly acceptable to base answers you give on an electrical board to other people, right? 
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01-06-2011, 04:55 PM
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The danger that I see is that lightning seeking a good ground, via a path of least resistance, may be drawn first to the water, then from the water to the electrical cable.
I have seen a case where lightning struck the ground and travelled 12 feet down to hit a multi-conductor telephone cable.
Its path through the earth could be traced easily, as it looked like a rat hole.
In this case, if it could have travelled through water rather than dry earth, I would think that water would offer the path of least resistance.
Of course, being in water during a lightning storm would be very unwise!
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