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Old 12-29-2011, 07:08 PM   #1
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What is your opinion?
I am not a licensed Electrician,a do it your selfer.
I am old school trained, every permit that I pulled passed inspection first time out.
Here is the question:
I was trained to twist romex pigtail with linemen pliers and then screw on a wire nut.
I see a lot where the wires are just held together with the wire nut. The theory is that the wire nut has the metal spring in them now and that mechanical connection is all that is needed.
What is code? What is your opinion?
I will still twist first!

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I agree with you linemans twist install wire nut ....don't think thats part of any code in electrial that I know of....ben

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No code other than follow the directions on the box.
I pre-twist.
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I was trained to twist romex pigtail with linemen pliers...
If you don't... you can't get the solder to flow and hold the joint right.
Don't forget the tape!
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Here we go with this debate again.

I usualy don't pre-twist. By the time it's done, it's twisted anyways.
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The I have say no pretwisting required. I do not twist.
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If you don't... you can't get the solder to flow and hold the joint right.
Don't forget the tape!

That's a joke....right?
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That's a joke....right?
Nope.
Not that I do it or ever did... but it used to be the common practice.
The linemans twisting is a carryover from that.
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I was being trained by my Father at ten years of age, as a helper. I learned the codes over the years by reading NEC book and still learning as the codes change. pulling wire for forty years. Pretwist, never have/had a bad connection.

Thanks for the responses.

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Pre twist.
It is safer and a stronger joint.
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I'll pretwist for more than 3 wires, otherwise I just make sure the wirenut is bottomed out, and give it a quick tug test.

And then of course I give it a couple wraps of electrical tape



Just kidding.
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if they have a load on them and they don't twist with the nut could arch and melt the wire nut..seen it anything more the 3 wires quick twist then use the "bullnose"... turning the wire nut
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Always pre twist

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