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Old 03-04-2009, 10:57 PM   #16
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Turned off power. Changed outlet. No power to entire house.


I'll most likely pick up a neon tester in the morning, check the pullout switch, and possibly replace the 60 amp or a couple of the "soft" breakers.

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Old 03-04-2009, 10:59 PM   #17
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Yes, PLEASE, let us know how this turns out. I especially want to know if anything else weird happens (neighborhood dogs start barking?) when the main breaker orientation is reversed. This just made up for the whole rest of my day!
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There might be a main disconnect somewhere upstream from your panel. My old panel had a fuse box right before the panel with two cartridge fuses. Are the street lights on?
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Old 03-04-2009, 11:09 PM   #19
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How did the POCO know the power was on to the house?
Did they show up?
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When we first bought this house a transformer in our neighborhood blew-up at the same exact time I plugged in a window air-conditioner. I pushed in the plug... heard a huge explosion... and the power went out.

I was convinced for several minutes that I blown something up in my house. Then I noticed my neighbors' lights were off too... maybe I caused the whole D$%N thing!
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JB, he says because the meter was moving slightly the POCO said there was power coming in.
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JB, he says because the meter was moving slightly the POCO said there was power coming in.
I missed that part. If the meter was moving, then he had a load somewhere.
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No, ComEd didn't show up. I called and they said that they would be out in the afternoon. When ComEd learned that the meter was running... albeit very slowly when the breakers were in the on position, they concluded that the house was getting power and that they didn't need to show up.

All of my neighbors are fine with their electric. The bizarre part to me is that this occured after I changed out a switch. But the thing that points me to the breakers is that a couple of them are soft and I've turned the breakers on and off maybe a dozen times in the past couple of weeks while I've been changing out outlets, switches, adding recessed lighting, etc... Never had a problem before today with the electric and even this morning before changing out the switch, everything was fine.
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Guys - I'll bet there are multiple problems here. His main is fried (or still might be in upside down), but that doesn't explain why he blew power, even temporrarily, for his neighbors. Some crude hot/not hot voltage measurements would sure help,as would a picture of the service. But as 220/221 one said "this will be a classic". -- Phil
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Did you turn ALL the breakers on and off to replace one outlet every single time you replaced an outlet?

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He didn't "blow" the power. The power never came back on. His neighboors were not affected.
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How did the POCO know the power was on to the house?
Did they show up?
So I guess the meter is remote monitoring?
Why would it be turning if you have no power?

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Is that large on-off device under the meter just a switch, or is it a circuit breaker?
If it's hooked to the AC, where does the other end go?
Could it be that the 60A double breaker in your panel feeds the AC, via the outdoor on-off switch, which I've seen on just about every central AC install.
If that is the case, then you have another panel somewhere.
But I still don't understand why anything upstream would have tripped out.
If you mis-wired the switch you replaced, you would have tripped one of the 15A or 20A breakers, not the main!

I think you should call a good electrician!

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I never removed the main breaker (my brother did remove the pullout below the meter yesterday but I'm almost positive that he did put it back in correctly). When changing outlets, I simply turned off all of the breakers and in all other cases, when I switched the breakers back on, everything worked. In this case, after changing a switch by the front door and switching all of the breakers back on, there was absolutely no power to the house. All of the neighbors homes were fine with no power loss.

Yeah. I turned off all of the breakers every time I replaced a single switch. Actually I would replace two or three switches at a time. I was just being extra pre-cautionary... going overboard on the safe side.

They asked me to check to see if the meter was running. When all of the breakers were off, the meter was not spinning. When I turned all of the breakers on, the meter was budging ever so slightly. Based on that determination, they said that I was getting power to the house.

That pullout switch may be for the AC only. This is a rehab and yes, my AC at my house also has this pull on off and it only relates to the AC and not to the rest of the house. I don't see any other panels in this place.

I've called an electrician (a buddy of mine) but he said that it may be a couple of days before he can make it out.
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Any breakers warm?

What brand breakers do you have?

A multimeter would make this whole thing easier to troubleshoot.

I'm going for a bad breaker.
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Hi, can you post any pictures? Of overall setup, inside house and outside, and of circuit breaker box with cover removed? Gene

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