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amy1234567 08-04-2013 08:29 AM

Trying to find Electrical Panel Cover
 
I am trying to find a Electrical Panel Cover for a home that was built in 1960. I am not sure how old this panel is, but I am trying to figure out what type of panel it is.

There is no indication of what kind of panel, but a recent update to a fuse was a Murray 04089253198.

Inside the Panel Box states Underwriter Labratories CTL ff 038292, and 11 box3501.

Is anyone familiar with what type of Panel this is???? Please help???? Need to replace the cover.

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Philly Master 08-04-2013 08:44 AM

LOL ... no no .. you need to replace the Panel and then you get a free cover ....

Speedy Petey 08-04-2013 08:53 AM

Yeah, your only option is to do the right thing and have that panel replaced. This way they can move it down from being tucked up into the ceiling like that. That is a REAL hack job.
Besides, you'll never find a cover for it unless someone has a junk one lying around, which is not likely.

amy1234567 08-04-2013 08:57 AM

Philly
 
Thanks Philly. We would have upgraded the panel, but we are selling the house and was looking to find a replacement cover.

I bought 2 Murray Panels, but the covers do not fit correctly over the interior box. I am not very savvy with electrical so I was trying to see if it were possible to get a replacement cover?

If I were familiar with the brand it was it would be easier to search to see if I can find it online. I was hoping someone on this site might be familiar with the picture of the kind of panel?

Thanks though!

Speedy Petey 08-04-2013 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by amy1234567 (Post 1224925)
Thanks Philly. We would have upgraded the panel, but we are selling the house and was looking to find a replacement cover.

Another reason to have it replaced. A home inspector will rip that panel to shreds. You're better off making the proactive move to avoid that.



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Originally Posted by amy1234567 (Post 1224925)
If I were familiar with the brand it was it would be easier to search to see if I can find it online.

Like we said, it's simply too old.


Quote:

Originally Posted by amy1234567 (Post 1224925)
I was hoping someone on this site might be familiar with the picture of the kind of panel?

Oh, I'm sure we're all very familiar with those panels.

Philly Master 08-04-2013 09:21 AM

LOL its a 12/24 :laughing:

amy1234567 08-04-2013 10:41 AM

Thanks speedy and philly. I will look into finding a replacement cover still to see if anyone has any sitting around and how much it would cost to replace the housing.

dgfit 08-04-2013 10:42 AM

A new cover would ease the concerns of a potential home buyer such that they make an offer, but a home inspector and/or FHA appraiser would require replacement of the panel or at least updates. That could, however, become a point of negotiation on price.

amy1234567 08-04-2013 10:47 AM

dgfit, I don't have any current issues with the electrical or tripping of service. Do you see something of concern? It's an older panel, but I don't have any issues with it, I was just trying to find a cover for it.

amy1234567 08-04-2013 10:50 AM

I recently had a FHA loan in buying the house a year ago, but I need to relocate for job reasons and was concerned about the cover.

Oso954 08-04-2013 11:51 AM

Apparently, your home inspector missed the issues.

The panel is mounted too high from the floor (assuming normal ceiling) height.

It extends above the ceiling, making panel cover removal next to impossible. That is the reason someone cut down your current cover.

Your current cover does not completely seal the panel. If you had an arc, it would jet out the opening above the panel cover and most likely set the house on fire.

Everything about that panel says some Hack did the work. That begs the question "What else did he do that I can't see ?" I would be asking you for a larger price reduction than the panel replacement, simply because I know I would run into more wiring issues in the future. If I was advising someone else, I would probably say walk away, find another house.

That is why the guys are telling you to replace it before inspection.
Putting a new cover on it, is putting lipstick on a pig.

sparks1up 08-04-2013 12:25 PM

In lieu of replacing the panel you could always raise the ceiling and the floor, replace the breakers with all from the same manufacturer, install proper fittings at cable entries, make sure the panel is properly bonded and grounded and replace the cover... Probably less work to replace the panel... ;)

The panel has a Bryant main breaker and a mixture of Siemens, Crouse Hinds and Bryant branch breakers.

Have fun!

dgfit 08-04-2013 02:35 PM

I think it all depends on the inspector/appraiser. They should call out anything unsafe and likely respect grandfathered code. Dunno when the panel height code came out in relation to when the panel was installed.

gregzoll 08-04-2013 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by amy1234567 (Post 1224958)
Thanks speedy and philly. I will look into finding a replacement cover still to see if anyone has any sitting around and how much it would cost to replace the housing.

Have fun with that. You will never find one. Again, better to replace the panel, and then you will have no problems.

Why make things more difficult by fighting the Sparky's that have responded, who know what they are talking about, thinking that you are going to find a dead front door for a panel, that is no longer manufactured.

BTW, you have the Dead Front, you just need a door to over, which you can actually just have a shop that has a hydraulic metal shear, cut one out of 18 gauge steel, and then rivet on hinges, that you can rivet on that existing Dead Front.

Oso954 08-04-2013 02:47 PM

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......in relation to when the panel was installed.
You apparently don't realize you are NOT looking at an original panel that was permitted and inspected. This is a replacement that was most likely done without permit, because it should have never passed inspection.


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