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Old 03-10-2010, 10:38 PM   #16
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my guess is it was a switched outlet at one point on a 3wire to that outlet. It has since been replaced and the black now feeds the whole outlet making the red wire worthless. Make sure to remove that black pigtail.
That's probably right. Probably what I should do if possible is find which outlet the red wire goes to and disconnect it so its not hot at the switch panel. Worst case is that the red wire just gets connected up with the other two black wires, which are in turn all connected to the input of the dimmer switch. The dimmer would go in place of the switch that's there now, and the additional wire that's run up the wall to the recessed lights would be connected to the output of the dimmer switch.

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Old 03-10-2010, 10:43 PM   #17
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Yep. they sure were.
Then I find it hard to believe that they are both hot unless someone has done some funky splicing somewhere else. I still vote for switched receptacles. What room is nearest to the switchbox.?
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Old 03-11-2010, 08:00 AM   #18
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Believe it, they're both hot. The switched outlet theory seems the most likely. Someone may have jumpered the black wire to the switched outlet at some point and left the red wire attached. I'll open some outlets and take a look when I get a chance.
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I assumed the red was not hot. The word doc said that the red was hot when the switch was powered, i assumed the black was feeding the red. You are saying that even disconnected the red and the black both draw power? If that is the case then the black needs to be removed, and u need to search all ur junctions/outlets and look where that red is tied in and remove that one as well.
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I assumed the red was not hot. The word doc said that the red was hot when the switch was powered, i assumed the black was feeding the red. You are saying that even disconnected the red and the black both draw power? If that is the case then the black needs to be removed, and u need to search all ur junctions/outlets and look where that red is tied in and remove that one as well.
Yes both of the leads that connect to the switch, the red and black one, are hot even when disconected from the switch. i agree that I need to track that red wire down
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If both leads are hot it is likely that there is a half switched receptacle (or several) in the room that someone replaced and did not break the tab.
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if you dont want to unscrew the outlets, u can remove the black that is in the same wire set as the red and test for the dead outlet or light.
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I took out all the outlets in the basement on that circuit tonight and didn't find a red wire anywhere.

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