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chuckcnm 11-09-2013 07:40 PM

trailer house electric issue
 
I have a electrical issue in a trailer house, it is tied to my Stove, Dishwasher and 2 outlets and porch light. the 2 outlets and porch light are on the same line and on the left side of the CB box while the Stove and DW is on the right, separate cbs. I have a intermittent power issue. I found out today that if turn on the dw is did not work and the stove clock was out. I turned on one burner and clock came on and the DW started working. I check the CB connections they are tight, any ideas

joecaption 11-09-2013 08:01 PM

Call the power company ASAP, not tomorrow.
Sounds like a dropped neutral which can destroy anything that's plugged in at the time.

Philly Master 11-09-2013 08:16 PM

my first thought was lost LEG ... >>>>turing on stove ( 240 )

Glennsparky 11-09-2013 08:45 PM

A lost leg means no power on one of the two incoming hot (black) wires. This can happen on the utility side, transformer or sometimes meter. That's the power company's responsibility.

Or it can happen on your side. The outside main disconnect or in the CB box. Maybe a loose main feed connection or maybe the main breaker went bad. That's not the power company's responsibility. You may need to hire an electrician.

chuckcnm 11-09-2013 09:45 PM

I would of thought it would have been the house cause:

Left side of CB panel is the 2 out lets and porch light
Right side of the CB panel is the stove and dishwasher.

Right now that all appears to be not working, the trailer is empty right now so I tell if anything else I wrong yet

Jim Port 11-10-2013 12:57 AM

I too am in the lost a hot leg camp.

dmxtothemax 11-10-2013 01:45 AM

If the loads don't work on there own, but do work to some extent when both are on, this indicates a lost neutral causing backfeeding. To test you need a volt metet. Test from each hot to neutral. One will be ok the other not. Also test between both hots should be 240v.
Be carefull when testing.

gregzoll 11-10-2013 02:29 AM

The problem with most trailers, is that they use sometimes XLP cable from the Meter pedestal to the trailer.

There are some areas that the power company will not touch anything in the mobile home park, and will require that you contact an electrician, or the park have an electrician perform any work inside the perimeter of the park, since most POCo's consider the border of the proper outside as their equipment, anything inside the border of the property, the responsibility of whoever those that live there pay rent or lease money to.

Most likely what has happened with the OP, is either someone was digging, and cut a leg somewhere, along the pah of the common feeder between meter pedestals, so it is best for them to go and ask their neighbors, if they are also having any issues inside their mobile home.

The worse thing is, there is a lot of older mobile homes that were built with Aluminum wiring in them, and people are still living in them. Then you have the ones that use the 1960's style cloth covered Romex.

Really without knowing the age of the mobile home, what kind of panel is in the place, what kind of wire connects them from the structure to the meter pedestal, are others downstream or upstream of their domicile also having power issues, everyone is really just taking a guess here, what the real issue may be.

For all we know, it could be just a bad breaker at either the Meter pedestal, or a bad main breaker inside the mobile home. Worse case is that someone was out digging along the path of the common feeder between meter pedestals, and sliced one of the legs.

electures 11-10-2013 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Port
I too am in the lost a hot leg camp.

I'm thinking lost or loose neutral.

Philly Master 11-10-2013 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by electures (Post 1264809)
I'm thinking lost or loose neutral.

how does that work ...


i have seen NO nuetral but house is fine cause of the water pipe connection ...

i do not get the back feed and neutral working ....



i get one leg no good .L1.. and turning on a 240 back feeding the panel so the other side L2 now feeds the L1 ....

dmxtothemax 11-10-2013 06:34 PM

According to the O / P the dishwasher and stove are on opposite legs,
Dishwasher no go,
Turn stove on and dishwasher shows some signs of life
IE - The dishwasher clock comes on !

Sounds like classic back feeding to me ?

So most likely a lost neutral,

But needs some testing to confirm the theory !

beenthere 11-10-2013 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dmxtothemax (Post 1265012)
According to the O / P the dishwasher and stove are on opposite legs,
Dishwasher no go,
Turn stove on and dishwasher shows some signs of life
IE - The dishwasher clock comes on !

Sounds like classic back feeding to me ?

So most likely a lost neutral,

But needs some testing to confirm the theory !

The stove is most likely 240 volt. So when he turns on the stove, its back feeding the other leg. Probably only has 1 leg hot from the meter, or panel.

dmxtothemax 11-10-2013 06:47 PM

Sorry didnt realise that the stove was 240v !
If it is, then yes your theory sounds right.
Now all we have to do is test to prove it !

Sounds like there is a loose connection on one leg.

Has there been any tests yet ?

chuckcnm 11-10-2013 10:11 PM

wow thanks for all the help, I have the power company coming out tomorrow I hope. This is not a trailer park, it is on some land I own. I did also notice that the water pump was acting a little funny kind of weak water pressure at time. I have a pole light that has kind of a dull clicking noise coming from it if that helps. I will post what the POCO says tomorrow.

joecaption 11-11-2013 06:41 AM

Your going to end up burning up that pump and anything else that plugged in if that powers left on.


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