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Old 09-10-2012, 09:10 PM   #16
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imo, its better to have each room on its own breaker. that is what i am doing.

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Wow, they should have made it MANDATORY to give each home owner a wiring diagram of how their home was wired. Now, the only way to trace anything down is to open up all the ceilings and walls. They were very shortsighted.
It would be kind of hard to find that stuff with most AHJ's, since a lot have either lost to floods, fires, rodents, or was never on file to begin with. Keep in mind, it was an art form back in the day how K&T was done, and actually was ahead of its time when it was done.
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imo, its better to have each room on its own breaker. that is what i am doing.
Yes I agree but what is the best path for the wire to be run? Go from one recepticle to another, and then go from the last receptacle to the lights? Is that the most efficient way to do it?
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Yes I agree but what is the best path for the wire to be run? Go from one recepticle to another, and then go from the last receptacle to the lights? Is that the most efficient way to do it?
first, you have to get the wire to the room. that can vary, so you will have to figure that one out. after that, just run the wire/s the easiest route = sometimes its just going around the room. sometimes, you have 2 wires(or more) = one going to one side of the room, the other going to the other side of the room.

honestly, its not hard at all.

oh, use 14/3 up to the ceiling light. so if you decide to add a ceiling fan, now or later, the wire is already there. a 2 gang box at the wall switch is a great idea, even if you do not use it now.
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just run the wire/s the easiest route = sometimes its just going around the room.
I guess my question is, whatever route you take you'll always end up going from one receptacle to the lights, right?
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I guess my question is, whatever route you take you'll always end up going from one receptacle to the lights, right?
not really. you will have to run the lights from the light switch box. unless you want remote controlled lights/fan. i just finished wiring mine today.
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here is a pic. the light switch box. there is an outlet at the end of the wire going down. the main room box in the basement feeds that outlet, then feeds the switches. the wire going up right feeds the ceiling light & fan, 14/3. the wire going up to the left feed the 2 outlets on the wall to my left, and the closet light to my left rear.
then, i have another wire going from the main room box, in the basement, that will feed the other outlet on that wall, and the wall to my right and the wall behind me.

i am sure the pro's here will find something i did wrong
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I would run lights on a separate circuit, outlets on another. Preferably running 12/3 for outlet circuits. I am stuck with one circuit in my living room that has to run the lights for the overhead & front entry/porch, due to I am not in the mood yet to change it from 14/2 for that circuit, to 12/2 for the four outlets, and 14/2 for the three lights.

I went from four orig. circuits, 3 add-ons that were added on the orig. fuse panel in our house, to around 25 in the new panel. The good thing is, even at full load, we could have gotten away with a 60amp panel, since our full load is around 47-50 amps if we are doing laundry, have a couple of tv's on, and running the microwave & dishwasher also.
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i was told, on this forum, to use 14/2or3. in the kitchen, i will use larger.
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There really are no rules what you use and where, as in no restrictions that 14/2 or 3 only in Kitchens. Who ever told you that either was wrong or mis-stated. You are only limited to the rules of the NEC, and what your local AHJ states that you must follow under their guidelines.

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