Go Back   DIY Chatroom Home Improvement Forum > Home Improvement > Electrical

CLICK HERE AND JOIN OUR COMMUNITY TODAY...IT'S FREE!

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 07-29-2012, 08:33 PM   #1
Newbie
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 2
Share |
Default

Too many lights...help


I have installed 10 can lights in my basement that I am finishing. My wife wants all of them on one switch. I am afraid that 10 lights will be too much for one 15 amp circuit breaker.

A friend of mine mentioned something about using two breakers and doing a "reverse circuit." (If I remember what he said correctly.)

Would any one here be willing to describe this in more detail or link me to a site?

My wife would also like this on 3-way switches. Possible with this type of circuit?

What is the typical number of lights and outlets that should be on a circuit breaker?

Thanks you for the help.

MrBigTchr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-29-2012, 08:44 PM   #2
Licensed electrician
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Maryland
Posts: 7,415
Default

Too many lights...help


The number of devices on a circuit depends on the load to be expected on the circuit. For a lighting circuit this is based on the largest bulb the fixture can accept.

I have never heard of a reverse circuit.

__________________
Answers based on the National Electrical Code. Local amendments may apply. Check with your local building officials.
Jim Port is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 07-29-2012, 08:48 PM   #3
Newbie
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 2
Default

Too many lights...help


Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim Port View Post
The number of devices on a circuit depends on the load to be expected on the circuit. For a lighting circuit this is based on the largest bulb the fixture can accept.

I have never heard of a reverse circuit.
Thanks for the response. The lights are rated for 60 Watt max I believe.

I could have the "reverse circuit" term wrong. We were at his wife's grandmother's funeral, so I didn't really ask him to write or draw anything down for me.

Something about 5 lights from one circuit and 5 lights from another circuit and they would meet at the one switch...
If I am remembering that correctly, it just doesn't seem right to me.
MrBigTchr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-29-2012, 08:51 PM   #4
Licensed Electrician
 
k_buz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: SE Wisconsin
Posts: 4,336
Default

Too many lights...help


Don't listen to your friend...ask us.

To switch two circuits at one location, you'd need a 2 pole switch.
Two switch two circuits at more than one location, you'd need a contactor.
Two switch more than two circuits at one or multiple locations, you'd need a contactor.

However, 10 lights on one circuit is fine even on a 15A circuit. Run one circuit for the lights, and one for the receptacles. Remember you need AFCI protection for the lighting and receptacles. The receptacles need to be tamper resistant as well.
__________________
__________________________________________________ ______________
Answers based on the National Electric Code. Always check local amendments.


k_buz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-29-2012, 09:00 PM   #5
Licensed electrician
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Maryland
Posts: 7,415
Default

Too many lights...help


Ten lights at 60 watts rquals a 600 watt load. A 15 amp circuit can support 1800 watts non-continuous or 1440 continuous. Continuous is 3 hours or more by code.

I also think the lights may accept larger than 60 watts, but you can get the idea.
__________________
Answers based on the National Electrical Code. Local amendments may apply. Check with your local building officials.
Jim Port is online now   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Jim Port For This Useful Post:
kevinp22 (07-29-2012)
Old 07-30-2012, 01:20 AM   #6
" Euro " electrician
 
frenchelectrican's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: WI & France { in France for now }
Posts: 5,369
Default

Too many lights...help


If you look at the label inside the recessed can and they will list the max wattage they can use I know useally 75 watts or so depending on which trim you plan to use and I/C or pas I/C verison. ( genrally pas I/C are rated higher )

Merci,
Marc
__________________
The answer will be based on NEC ( National Electrical code ) or CEC ( Cananda Electrical code ) or ECF ( Electrique Code France )
frenchelectrican is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-30-2012, 05:21 AM   #7
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Cairns Australia
Posts: 2,379
Default

Too many lights...help


You worry about nothing !
at 60w each thats only 600w! or 5 amps.
Even at 100w each thats still only 1000w! or 8.3 amps.
All well within the 15 amp breakers ability.
dmxtothemax is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-30-2012, 08:01 AM   #8
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Festus, MO
Posts: 39
Default

Too many lights...help


You are fine on the circuit and a regular switch, but be careful if she then asks for a dimmer. Most dimmers are only rated to 600w. If the cans are really rated at 60w, then you should still be fine, but any more and you will need a special dimmer.
cube17576 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-30-2012, 09:29 AM   #9
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Minneapolis, MN
Posts: 492
Default

Too many lights...help


Quote:
Originally Posted by cube17576 View Post
You are fine on the circuit and a regular switch, but be careful if she then asks for a dimmer. Most dimmers are only rated to 600w. If the cans are really rated at 60w, then you should still be fine, but any more and you will need a special dimmer.
If using a dimmer, for 10 cans I would get a 1000 watt dimmer, not a 600. I need an ivory 3 way 1000 watt toggle dimmer. Big box stores don't carry quite that specific so i have to order.

B

Beepster is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Finding underground electric wire for driveway lights. mitch21131 Electrical 25 09-24-2012 08:52 AM
Lights still dimming and flickerin Keisha34 Electrical 18 06-08-2012 11:14 PM
Dimming and Flickering lights in home Keisha34 Electrical 34 06-05-2012 02:22 PM
Need info on replacing 8 recessed lights in bathroom OhmZoned Electrical 1 11-07-2011 12:35 PM
Use factory fog light switch for aftermarket lights? downunder Automotive Repairs 6 07-10-2010 11:45 AM




Top of Page | View New Posts

Copyright © 2003-2014 Escalate Media. All Rights Reserved.