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anuvanoob 05-19-2012 02:21 AM

Tips for wiring an unfinished basement
 
I wired the newly constructed apartment on the second floor of my house and now I feel ready to tackle wiring my basement (I'm not turning this into an apartment). The thing is my basement is open & unfinished and will remain open & unfinished for the time being, but the space is used. This means obviously routing the electrical wires through the ceiling joists and, I guess, letting outlet boxes drop from the ceiling where I want power.

I know this isn't normal or to code, but any tips running electrical for this situation? Or is there a better way to provide power outlets for a stud-less, wall-less, open & unfinished basement?

Thanks in advance


P.S. - Finishing the basement will be done in a year or two when the budget allows it. For now, I still want to use the space.

oh'mike 05-19-2012 06:41 AM

I suggest yo use conduit and steel boxes---simply run around the walls at whatever elevation you like.

Attach the boxes to the wall with short nails shot from a .22 cal stud gun.

Remove from the walls when you do the remodel.

one or two circuits would work

TarheelTerp 05-19-2012 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by anuvanoob (Post 924403)

This means (making a plan for) routing the electrical wires through the ceiling joists (to known and potential future use points) and, I guess, letting outlet boxes (and wire secured to the exterior wall) from the ceiling where I want power (and/or device boxes secured to the bottom of the joists like lights are).

hope that helps

anuvanoob 05-19-2012 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by oh'mike (Post 924412)
I suggest yo use conduit and steel boxes...

My goodness, I didn't even consider conduits and steel boxes! Very smart! Though I do dread working with conduits... can I minimize the use of them by only using them from the bottom of the ceiling joist to the steel outlet box? If not, is there a different type of conduit that is easier to work with? I only ask these questions because I didn't want to spend more money on electrical for the basement (plus I stupidly bought standard electrical outlets already) and I wanted this to be a quick project since the finished work will be relatively temporary.

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Originally Posted by oh'mike (Post 924412)
Attach the boxes to the wall with short nails shot from a .22 cal stud gun.

That means I'd be attaching the boxes to the cement wall. Will the method you describe work on a cement wall or do I need to use special screws and manually hammer them in?


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Originally Posted by TarheelTerp (Post 924433)
...from the ceiling where I want power (and/or device boxes secured to the bottom of the joists like lights are).

I'm not sure what you mean here - you mean putting junction boxes in the ceiling joist? If so, for what purpose?

gregzoll 05-19-2012 01:24 PM

After you get the initial bending down a couple of times, you will be a pro.

jimmy21 05-19-2012 01:44 PM

You could use pvc. It's easy to bend with heat

TarheelTerp 05-19-2012 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by anuvanoob (Post 924569)
I'm not sure what you mean here - you mean putting junction boxes in the ceiling joist? If so, for what purpose?

You said the basement is open and unfinished (for now at least)... right?
If so then you shouldn't need more than a few lights and a few receptacles down there. This wire (romex) can easily be run through the joists to device boxes. Those boxes (lights or receptacles) can be mounted to the joist.

If you need more than just a few lights or receptacles or if you want to plan your homeruns to meet the future plans... that's good too.

Clearer?
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I can't see any reason to use conduit unless you're in Chicago.

oh'mike 05-19-2012 09:03 PM

Consider this a 'throw away' temporary set up--

When you do finish the basement--no boxes should be hidden behind drywall--so unless you are planning on using a drop ceiling---I'd suggest using the shortest route--

Boxes can be gunned to the concrete wall--or tapcons---buy a conduit bender or borrow one from a friend--conduit is cheap-- oxes are too---just plan on ripping it out when you do your build--Mike--

anuvanoob 05-20-2012 04:52 AM

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Originally Posted by TarheelTerp (Post 924606)
You said the basement is open and unfinished (for now at least)... right?
If so then you shouldn't need more than a few lights and a few receptacles down there. This wire (romex) can easily be run through the joists to device boxes. Those boxes (lights or receptacles) can be mounted to the joist.

If you need more than just a few lights or receptacles or if you want to plan your homeruns to meet the future plans... that's good too.

Clearer?
---

I can't see any reason to use conduit unless you're in Chicago.

Very clear, thanks. I got tripped up on the device boxes thing, never heard them called that.

Why do you say you can't see any reason to use conduit outside of Chicago?

oh'mike 05-20-2012 06:20 AM

I am from a conduit area---I like the protection that conduit offers on an exposed surface like a basement wall--

How would you prevent damage to the Romex on an open area like this?

I see lots of junk stacked against walls in basements---

jogr 05-20-2012 11:17 PM

I thought just about anywhere (not just Chicago) required conduit in unfinished basements for any wire dropping below the ceiling joists. (unless it is protected within a wall.)

k_buz 05-21-2012 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by jogr (Post 925536)
I thought just about anywhere (not just Chicago) required conduit in unfinished basements for any wire dropping below the ceiling joists. (unless it is protected within a wall.)

You are correct.


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