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Old 11-19-2009, 06:12 PM   #1
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tiled walls, now the outlet and light switch are too deep!


I avoid electrical work... the most I've ever done is hardwire chandeliers. That being said, my gut says that this is a really trivial problem.

The tile is very thick, so now, the switch and outlet are about 1" too recessed into the wall now. How does one deal with this? I guess it would require moving the box, becuase the front plate couldn't be moved THAT far forward without running the risk of the wires popping out of the box.

If that's the case, that would require an inspection from the town, and therefore a licensed electrician wouldn't it? (I actually wouldn't be averse to hiring an electrician, becuase the bathroom outlet is not a GFCI... It's still the original outlet from way back when.....)

Or is simply moving a closed box forward not considered technically "moving a box"? If it COULD be a DIY, how should I proceed? (Electrical is the LAST place I want to make a mistake!)

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If it's a " or less you can get a box extender, even at the big box stores. While your jurisdiction may require a permit, no jurisdiction that I know of requires you to hire an electrician. I don't believe moving the box out is considered "a move".

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if it were me, i'd cut the power and figure out the best way to move the box forward, then replace the standard outlet with the correct one for the bathroom.

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Just use longer screws on the switches/receptacles. The tile's not gonna catch fire

Use a plastic "box extension" if you want to be 100% legal. They slip inside the box and cover the gap.
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ah, a simple solution...

I shall grab a couple box extenders from my favorite big box shop I think this job is even simple enough for me not to screw-up

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ah, a simple solution...

I shall grab a couple box extenders from my favorite big box shop I think this job is even simple enough for me not to screw-up

thanks!
Take 220/221s (poster #4) advice. Best and quickest to do. On the next job always consider (depth) how the box will look after dry wall or tile (the thickness) is added. And when measuring height, always know what the floor or ceiling will add to or reduce from the total height.No matter what. Don't Drink and Drive, Ever!!!
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be sure to swap old outlet for a GFCI if it's in the bathroom.

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eh, I'll get the box extender. It doesn't take much more effort, and I'm at lowes or HD every weekend these days anyway.... the tile obviously can't catch fire, but there is a smidge of paper from the drywall that pokes out near the box....

there are actually THREE bathrooms without GFCI outlets... So, on my list of "things to do" is hiring an electrician to replace those, and install a chandelier that's in a very beastly location (about 15 feet above a staircase). But it will have to wait until I obtain the $$$ for that.....

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This situation has come up before.
The tile is absolutely fireproof.
IMO, you're safe with no box extender.
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This situation has come up before.
The tile is absolutely fireproof.
IMO, you're safe with no box extender.
While there might be little risk, without the box extender it would not be a Code compliant installation.
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While there might be little risk, without the box extender it would not be a Code compliant installation.
In that case, I hope the extenders fit. Otherwise, I guess you can get little abrasive wheels to enlarge the tile holes.

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